Model Y and Ford Mustang Mach E have the same rear issue?

[Billyk24]

It looks like from this link: https://insideevs.com/news/434262/m...HH1wk6k1RUVyjCcFojByEfdfTITFDm-giuX5EsPq_uIF0 That the rear hatch panel is going to be "banged" as soon as the rear bumper is if one is not careful? See the link for details and questions.

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[Maric]

Yeah. In today's world of crossover SUVs, 85% of what might rear end you is going to destroy that rear tailgate. Bumper will not protect this car much. We'll see how much impact this has on insurance costs. Tesla Model 3 is surprisingly less than my Audi. So I'm hoping for no surprises here.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

I'm not thrilled to see this, but if the rear bumper stays on in the rain, then it's objectively not suffering the same bumper issues as the Model Y.

 

[JCHLi]

I read that article too, but I wouldn't say it's the same issue. Yes, depending on what is hit, some additional body damage is possible for either, but what I saw pointed out got the Y, was how the crease in the body was part of the rear hatch.

 

[ab13]

The CoPilot system has reverse brake assist, so in many situations it may apply the brakes before hitting something.

 

[Billyk24]

The CoPilot system has reverse brake assist, so in many situations it may apply the brakes before hitting something.

Thanks for adding as many/(most?) don't have such a device and are not aware of such.

 

[ab13]

Thanks for adding as many/(most?) don't have such a device and are not aware of such.

Obviously it will depend on if the sensors see the object, but this looks good.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/permalink.html?VideoId=6165021406001

 

[ajmartineau]

I think the Y wins on the worse liftgate design. The Y hatch becomes part of the bumper. The MME is slightly higher.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I hope they've fixed that problem in the real ones. A couple of inches longer bumper could save lots of money.

 

[silverelan]

I think the Y wins on the worse liftgate design. The Y hatch becomes part of the bumper. The MME is slightly higher.

I've never noticed that before. That doesn't seem great.

 

[JellyBelly]

I am not an expert in automobile manufacturing but feel its Unlikely that they would have extended the bumper - require tooling changes, validations, testing etc unless they started the change a while back. If it can be blamed on lack of requirements or regulation or justified in some other way - they would likely get away with it unless the legal costs get to them - we all have seen these sorts of things happen with car companies enough times.

Having said that, lets hope Ford is doing the right and sensible thing here by extending the bumper. Its a needless expense for us and eventually them too.

 

[macchiaz-o]

Oh yay, inside ev's.

Ford's got bigger bumper issues to address. Imagine the insurance risk on this accident waiting to happen:

 

[RunningHorse]

The CoPilot system has reverse brake assist, so in many situations it may apply the brakes before hitting something.

I was about to post this but you beat me to it. Mach E reverse brake assist will never allow you to back into something. It's quite robust. If someone wants to test it out the feature is already available on on current Ford vehicles like the lincoln Aviator. As someone else also pointed out the Mach E hatch sits quite high above the rear bumper while the model y hatch extends low into the rear bumper.

 

[Marcel]

In my e-Golf it is impossible to hit any object when in reverse, the car will sense and brake (hard), i suspect the Ford will do the same.
When you are rear-ended it will not help...but then more and more cars will also brake due to radar/sensors

 

[portlandg]

If you get rear ended then it is not your fault so shouldn't have too much impact on your insurance. If you reverse into something and damage the lift gate as well, then sorry but that is YOUR fault and I have no sympathy. If you are unsure of your surroundings, even if you rely on the reversing camera and sensors, then my advice is to get out and look before attempting any manoeuvre