There are definitely issues for some. Elon even wrote an email to the employees talking about the need to fix those issues. I wonder what percentage of deliveries have problems though. Mine had a hatch and right rear door alignment issue which were fixed perfectly in a couple of hours. I also had a charging door issue that Tesla fixed the day after I reported it. Other than that it's been perfect. By far the best car I've owned. I took it in to the detail shop I go to to get the bumper & rocker panels wrapped and to be checked for needed paint corrections. They couldn't find anything that needed correcting. I'm still going to get it machine polished and then DIY ceramic coating. The Y's red paint needs it to look good long term I think. Advantage Ford on that one.
I'm still interested in the Mach-e, but TBH I'm somewhat dubious that Ford can hit the mark the Y has set. I hope they beat it, I really do. But damn, I really, really like the Y. If the E is better I'll have an even better car then!
Agreed, and from the email he sent Elon agrees with you too. I'm probably fortunate, I don't really know. I think the paint issues are going to continue as long as they paint cars in California. That said, my paint is as good as anything I've seen on any factory car. Others are absolutely having issues though. What the percentage is bad to good I don't think we can know other than it's high enough that Elon is upset about it. So too high.It would be nice if they could apply just a little more paint. Mine was mostly ok, but it is definitely thin. PPF is rather important, at least for the bumper.
My 3 (~11/2018 build date) needed a glass roof replacement (off-center, enough so that I wouldn't have been able to use a roof rack if I wanted), a driver rear door alignment, and was missing a couple of fasteners. 22K miles and have lost about 4.5% of range (296/310 miles). That said, anything above 65MPH sustained and the range is more like 225-235 miles.
If Tesla could just work on initial quality and parts availability/service capacity it would go a long way. Misaligned panels and multiple easily observed paint defects are not a startup problem, they are a quality problem. Ford can definitely score points there, after that I'm anxious to see drivetrain performance/efficiency.
As Lambert notes, these problems are occurring close to Tesla's traditional end-of-quarter production push, but they could not be happening at a worse time for the carmaker. Tesla lost several weeks of production to an enforced factory shutdown due to COVID-19, and The Wall Street Journal reported that its deliveries of new vehicles in California in May were down 70 percent, year on year, compared to a general industry decline of 52 percent.I am the first to cut Tesla some slack when it comes to the quality of vehicles early in a production ramp-up, but this seems a lot worse than usual.
We covered the Model 3 launch closely and it certainly wasn’t without quality issues, but it was nothing like the reports I am seeing for Model Y these days.
Of course, what we don’t see are the happy Model Y owners reporting deliveries of flawless vehicles because they are too busy enjoying their new car, but I wouldn’t chalk this up to a vocal minority having issues here.
There’s not a day that goes by without Model Y owners reporting to us that Tesla attempted delivery of an unacceptable vehicle and I am seeing a surprising number of people communicating similar issues on forums.
It looks to me that the “rectification needs” Elon mentioned are overwhelming Tesla’s quality control, but the automaker is still trying to deliver the Model Y vehicles with defects in order to save their quarter.
Agreed, and from the email he sent Elon agrees with you too. I'm probably fortunate, I don't really know. I think the paint issues are going to continue as long as they paint cars in California. That said, my paint is as good as anything I've seen on any factory car. Others are absolutely having issues though. What the percentage is bad to good I don't think we can know other than it's high enough that Elon is upset about it. So too high.
I'll be taking a close look at the E when it comes out. I'm not married to the Y or Tesla. But Ford is going to have to step it up over what I'm seeing in the wild. The "Ruby Red E In the Wild" thread on here has left me very underwhelmed with the brakes and tires.
Your range degradation isn't necessarily battery degradation. The only way to check that accurately is charge it to full and then run it down to 10% Look at the Kwh used and multiply by 1.1. That will give you battery capacity minus whatever unknown safety margin Tesla includes. The range estimation includes changes in estimated efficiency. Environmental conditions like wet roads can have an impact on that number over time. Mine goes up and down all the time.
I can't speak to your GTO, but the videos show some pretty basic quality issues that are not "fine tooth comb". The hatchback lid not closing, the rear seats not folding down right or back up right, seats not being attached, seat belts not being attached... those are not "fine tooth comb" things. At least not to me. I wouldn't accept any of that on a $30K crossover, let alone a $60K one.That being said .. .They have a rep for that. So I think part of the complaints come from the fact that people go into buying a Tesla and use a fine tooth comb to go over their cars. A lot of the things that people mentioned, i would have never thought to look for and likely would have never noticed if they hadn't pointed things out. The two brand new ordered cars I've ever owned were my Tesla Model 3 and a 2006 Pontiac GTO. There were actually more defects on the GTO than there were on my Tesla. They had to repaint a whole door due to a scratch on the GTO.
Reminds me of a Yugo.I can't speak to your GTO, but the videos show some pretty basic quality issues that are not "fine tooth comb". The hatchback lid not closing, the rear seats not folding down right or back up right, seats not being attached, seat belts not being attached... those are not "fine tooth comb" things. At least not to me. I wouldn't accept any of that on a $30K crossover, let alone a $60K one.
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