Join the darkside.
Yes, but we were hoping we wouldn’t have to compromise one for the other.
If the media drives are held in October, the reviews won’t happen until…..October. This gives Ford time to fix their busted ass shit and get some real GD trap speeds. They’ll deal with the owner review fallout because that ain’t jack shit compared to major mags or YouTube reviewer videos posting 100mph 1/4 miles to millions of subscribers. And right next to a 4X trapping 103-104 haha. Great optics. ?
Where would the fun be in that? I'm personally enjoying the rampant speculation and wild theories in this thread.
Only chance of getting a Ford response is if someone takes their GT into the dealer for “losing power above 50 mph” and see what Ford says.
I am pretty sure with perm mag motor the 2 speed will help at higher speeds. Pretty sure there is a sacrifice on a perm mag over certain RPMs...so if you have gearing for max 0-60, you end falling out of the meat of the power band due to too many RPMs over 60mph. Tesla I suspect uses one induction partly to get more in the high end as they can tune the magnetic fields dynamically at higher RPM with one of those.2 speed won’t help with the 60+ mph acceleration. If anything it would make it worse in order to give a higher top speed.
It also would make for a faster 0-60, but I also don’t think that’s an issue.
Unfortunately for me, so far it’s not any faster than my daily driver now. Faster to 60, significantly slower above 60 and barely slower in the 1/4.
60-100 in 9 seconds is……… slow. That’s that the times for the GT and GT PE are showing.
Just for comparison- Model Y performance does 60-100 in about 6 seconds.
This is a screenshot from the video linked here, where he also did another run of 0-60 in 3.4….. on the street.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/inside...deo-tesla-model-y-performance-drag-times/amp/
I wouldn't count on it being software when one has all perm mag and the other has perm mag and induction. This could be a magnetic field/RPM and gearing used thing that can be changed dynamically on and induction motor getting rid of need for a couple speed gear box like Porsche uses.Just to add my 2 cents into the discussion about the MME GTPE losing acceleration at higher speeds, I averaged the GTPE 0-60 splits from pages 1 and 59, and compared them to the Model Y splits on page 60. I graphed the difference in time (0-10, 0-20, etc) versus speed. The graph shows clearly that the GTPE accelerates faster than the MY from 0-40 but then loses relative acceleration at 40 MPH (or a little earlier). It is so dramatic that it has to be software, not hardware causing this.
You suspect wrong. This has been put to bed…multiple times over. The GTs are not holding at max HP for as long into rpms, which in an EM motor is a function of power draw.
The silence and guy that showed it probably is a stop light king vs the MYP has me thinking Ford went for that to get a comparable 0-60mph rather than 1/4 and has only Perm mag and not gear change so had to compromise somehow. So I suspect they have the gearing setup for 1/4 mile and the perm mags run out of ability to pull more juice too soon for a 1/4 pull to end up having the real meat of the power band in the right place. It could probably trap better and have way better time if it didn't come off the line so hard in how it's geared.
This just isn't true...the magnetic field on a perm mag can't be tuned dynamically as much as an induction motor so the design usually means there is some RPM range where the constant torque ends and you can maintain power as the revs increase sorta...but loss of torque as you speed up...they effectively run out of breath...this is part of what killed the single motor Model 3...it has good power off the line, but just looses it's breath.
Glad you're going to have the opportunity to test another one for us, but I think you'll find the same results. It drops off so much at higher speeds I questioned whether it was even a 12 second car using seat of the pants compared to past high performance rides where I had data. The only reason it makes mid-upper 12s is the phenomenal hook and go 60' and 0-60 time. There's really no art to launching this vehicle so we should expect pretty repeatable results.It does, but I also haven't tried to got 100 yet so who knows....so far.
Sync 4 software version 21180_product revision: 176
fyi Tesla still makes the single motor Model 3 (SR+). They removed the mid range RWD (Single Motor), and the dual motor long range RWD. This was mostly done to consolidate their product lines to make it easier to plan and manufacture, removing the lower demand configurations. It's a shame since the LR RWD 3 was efficient and offered good performance (~ 4.7 0-60).
I'm on the sidelines until the MME PE matches or exceeds Model Y in 0-60, quarter mile and on the track.
