My GT Performance Edition (GTPE) first track launch with videos, timeslip! 0-60 in 4.12s, 1/4 mile in 12.657 @ 100.02 mph

[ElectrifyCLT]

In reading this thread, it’s reminding me of a deep dive into the battery pack characteristics I found when first researching the Mach E. IIRC, the Original poster said these runs were at 60% SOC?

Highly technical deep dive, but the important note: “As the SOC and battery voltage drop, the peak current limit will limit motor power as described above. When going to a drag race, start at a full charge - well known advice.”

My guess here is that 60% SOC has a dramatic difference in performance than 85-100%. Unlike a gas car, how full your ”tank” is will impact the results you get out of it. @EVmodeler unsure if you have any thoughts on this topic?

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[0t60-3.5]

These are bad.

Is the GT just a flat out turd above 60 or 70 mph? These make it look like it.

edit: there's no "may have" you understand in that last one that you were actively decelerating, right? That's what negative Gs mean. You sure you had it floored prior to that?

Yes, as I noted in some of the comments, the last one was on the road and I think I did let up on the pedal before 1/4 mile

 

[Jeebus]

I'm going to get panned for this, but I think it has to do with the tires being borderline suitable for a standard SUV, let alone one with 600 lb/ft torque. I think it was a trade off for range, as you get slightly less the wider you go. The non GT MME's are even smaller. I'd be interested in seeing how 255's or 265's would do on the track.

Nah. That would translate to slower et with high trap. I'm not saying more tire couldn't improve things, but that's not the problem here.

 

[Frankie]

My bolt on 88 5.0 coupe trapped 100.

In reading this thread, it’s reminding me of a deep dive into the battery pack characteristics I found when first researching the Mach E. IIRC, the Original poster said these runs were at 60% SOC?

Highly technical deep dive, but the important note: “As the SOC and battery voltage drop, the peak current limit will limit motor power as described above. When going to a drag race, start at a full charge - well known advice.”

My guess here is that 60% SOC has a dramatic difference in performance than 85-100%. Unlike a gas car, how full your ”tank” is will impact the results you get out of it. @EVmodeler unsure if you have any thoughts on this topic?

He started at 72%.

I could see it being this slow if it were below 40 or 50% but if it traps 100 mph with 72% SoC, lol get outta here. Embarrassing.

None of this compares favorably to the Model Y Performance and tbh a lot of it doesn't even compare favorably to the Model Y dual motor long range.

If this is "as designed"/"as expected" then I'm out, they can put my GTPE on the lot with a big ADM.

 

[ElectrifyCLT]

My bolt on 88 5.0 coupe trapped 100.


He started at 72%.

I could see it being this slow if it were below 40 or 50% but if it traps 100 mph with 72% SoC, lol get outta here. Embarrassing.

None of this compares favorably to the Model Y Performance and tbh a lot of it doesn't even compare favorably to the Model Y dual motor long range.

If this is "as designed"/"as expected" then I'm out, they can put my GTPE on the lot with a big ADM.

It’s not super comparative to blanket statement about an entire model on a single data point. But I agree, it’s not a great picture so far. But would also be curious to see a similar run on a Model Y at a similar SOC.

 

[MG101]

I was close!

Let's be real here did anyone actually think Ford was going to let any version of this car outperform the king of the streets, chrome 5.0 badge on the side, real american muscle Mustang GT? Heck even the the 4x barely keeps up with an ecoboost.

 

[CharleyCarlos]

Yes, as I noted in some of the comments, the last one was on the road and I think I did let up on the pedal before 1/4 mile

OP working harder here than Ford communications! ?

 

[Pushrods&Capacitors]

Deep breaths all you future GT/PE owners. This is one track visit with a SOC less than 70%. It looks like there is power-limiting on the top end, perhaps because of the SOC. Perhaps there is a real problem. We know we can’t blame density altitude though, right? Or a bad intake manifold and mufflers for you lucky ‘00 Cobra owners ?.

The 60ft and 1/8 mile times are very good and there’s probably more in it just by figuring out the best launch method, ie; brake- torque vs. just flat-footing the throttle. I saw one 7.99 1/8 mile ET in there at 87mph. That’s moving. My SS sedan with an LMS 93+ aggressive tune, CAI, and axle back only cuts 8.0s@90-91mph in the 1/8th and it runs 12.2s@116-117mph in the 1/4. That means the GTPE can run very low 12s if power isn’t being pulled.

I also saw a 3.78 0-60 run, which, is really good for a self-professed biggish driver. It bet we’ll see some 3.5s soon enough.

 

[silverelan]

My bolt on 88 5.0 coupe trapped 100.


He started at 72%.

I could see it being this slow if it were below 40 or 50% but if it traps 100 mph with 72% SoC, lol get outta here. Embarrassing.

None of this compares favorably to the Model Y Performance and tbh a lot of it doesn't even compare favorably to the Model Y dual motor long range.

If this is "as designed"/"as expected" then I'm out, they can put my GTPE on the lot with a big ADM.

I have a hard time believing that @Ford Motor Company's Ford Performance team would put out a direct competitor to Model Y Performance that would get absolutely smoked. I'm curious to see what happens with the regular GT since I'll be at stoplights and on ramps with regular Model Ys on the daily.

 

[sotek2345]

I guess we all just need to go to 1/8 Mike tracks instead!

 

[Frankie]

It’s not super comparative to blanket statement about an entire model on a single data point.

That's why I said if. I'm still willing to entertain that there's something wrong with his car or that there's other factors at play but things aren't looking great so far. If it drops off that bad at 72% SoC, whew, what's it gonna be like at 60? 50? 40? I don't know about you but I figure I'll probably be in the 60-75% SoC rather regularly and if it turns the 70k dollar GTPE into something that traps slower than my wife's 27k dollar Accord then it is just not for me.

But would also be curious to see a similar run on a Model Y at a similar SOC.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/myp-soc-vs-performance-with-dragy.234557/

13.1@100 @ 10% SoC
12.5@107 @ 25% SoC
12.3@110 @ 50% SoC
12.1@113 @ 75% SoC

I think some people don't understand precisely how bad that 99-100 mph trap speed for the GT is but take note that to get a Tesla to run that slow you have to be down to 10% SoC.

 

[Frankie]

I have a hard time believing that @Ford Motor Company's Ford Performance team would put out a direct competitor to Model Y Performance that would get absolutely smoked.

I agree and I sure hope not.

I sure wish they'd release the embargo.

 

[markboris]

I have a hard time believing that @Ford Motor Company's Ford Performance team would put out a direct competitor to Model Y Performance that would get absolutely smoked. I'm curious to see what happens with the regular GT since I'll be at stoplights and on ramps with regular Model Ys on the daily.

I may be wrong but only the Mach-E 1400 had anything to do with the Ford Performance team. I looked up the current Ford Performance vehicles and there are no Mach-E's listed. I've had three Ford Performance vehicles and they've all had very prominent door sills that display "Ford Performance" as well as other bits like a nice padded owners manual cover, literature and an engine plaques displaying "Ford Performance." I don't believe the Mach-E GT's have any of this.

 

[blue92lx]

I also saw a 3.78 0-60 run, which, is really good for a self-professed biggish driver. It bet we’ll see some 3.5s soon enough.

Makes me curious what the conditions are that Ford got their numbers, or any manufacturer for that matter. What constitutes a perfect condition run? What weather, tires, surface, elevation, and even what size rider? Are they putting in a 16 year old girl to get the best weight advantage? Like where does it really have to go to get the numbers a manufacturer gets in their testing.

 

[MrClean]

It’s not super comparative to blanket statement about an entire model on a single data point. But I agree, it’s not a great picture so far. But would also be curious to see a similar run on a Model Y at a similar SOC.

A Y Performance would kill it. A regular long range Y would probably hang with it.

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