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Hey Guys... The Ecoboost Mustang was a real disappointment in the beginning.
But we were fortunate to have guys like Brad Gusler and his 9 second Ecoboost Mustang!
And Jessie Ringley with his 800+ horsepower Ecoboost!
The Mach E and the Ford Lighting are part of the future of auto racing!!
This is a nice sentiment but it isn't really relevant to people that just want a car that is competitive with a Model Y Performance and would like to retain the warranty on the 30,000 dollars worth of EV components their car contains.
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Wonder how helpful the fans actually are for the EVs? If those being right out front are also causing issue...
It isn't just the fans being there, that's the first thing we checked (by getting rid of them).

My guess is the fans aren't really necessary during a ~10 second pull but you should put them in front of the vents for cooldown afterwards, but I'm far from an expert that's just a guess.
 

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But all the other modes should just be various remapping we of throttle pedal we have had in cars for years all really should give full power just the point at which that happens will have differences so in whisper you really need to stamp down compared to unbridled.
I don't really see the value of that remapping. Seems a whole lot easier just to remap my ankle muscles...
 

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I don't really see the value of that remapping. Seems a whole lot easier just to remap my ankle muscles...
Agree hence I normally prefer just a standard mode for throttle mapping, but I do like custom modes that let me adjust between comfort / sporty for steering weight and suspension settings.

However in a BEV I can see the benefit especially for people not used to fast vehicles where you ca have a calmer mode or really an eco mode where the throttle pedal mapping is biased more to towards to very slow acceleration.

I Still maintain that Ford really needs to introduce an individual mode like other manufactures and allow us to select our preferred preset setting for each of the various attributes, there is plenty of screen real-estate to enable adding one or two.
 

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Hey Guys... The Ecoboost Mustang was a real disappointment in the beginning.
But we were fortunate to have guys like Brad Gusler and his 9 second Ecoboost Mustang!
And Jessie Ringley with his 800+ horsepower Ecoboost!
The Mach E and the Ford Lighting are part of the future of auto racing!!

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The tuning potential of a turbo charged engine is very different and pretty much a known entity since high powered small displacement turbocharged engines have been around since the 1980's

So while I applaud the sentiment, In mach-e terms this comparison would be valid if it was a the a thread of people stating well the Select trim is a bit of disappointment performance wise but maybe in time more potential could be unleashed.

The GT/ GTPE is supposed to be the top performing trim out of the box not one that has a better 0-60 mph time but ends performing no better than an awd premium once past 60 mph.

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These professional lap times have me worried about GTPE performance. Other vehicles times are listed in the video description.

Am I reading this wrong?


 

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These professional lap times have me worried about GTPE performance. Other vehicles times are listed in the video description.

Am I reading this wrong?


The hell man...a Durango on track is faster?
 

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These professional lap times have me worried about GTPE performance. Other vehicles times are listed in the video description.

Am I reading this wrong?


Nope, looks like only two vehicles were slower than the Mach-E, the F150 and the Durango V6. The other 8 police vehicles were all faster, including all of Ford's Interceptor offerings.

So it looks like the GTPE is a 0-60 juggernaut but not very amazing beyond that.
 

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The hell man...a Durango on track is faster?
No…… pretty much everything was faster:
Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L RWD - 98 seconds - 73 MPH Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L 4WD - 98.9 seconds - 72 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 3.6L AWD - 97.8 seconds - 73 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 5.7L RWD - 96.3 seconds - 75 MPH Dodge Durango 3.6L AWD - 101.0 seconds - 72 MPH Dodge Durango 5.7L AWD - 98.8 seconds - 72 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility Hybrid AWD - 98.77 seconds - 73 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.0L EcoBoost AWD - 95.7 seconds - 75 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.3L AWD - 98.4 seconds - 73 MPH Ford F150 Police Responder 3.5L EcoBoost - 103.8 seconds - 69 MPH

Best time for the GTPE- 100 seconds 72 mph.

Barely beat a v6 Durango, and that was only one lap it beat it, it was slower on all other laps.

Seriously Ford…… WTF?
 

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No…… pretty much everything was faster:
Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L RWD - 98 seconds - 73 MPH Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L 4WD - 98.9 seconds - 72 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 3.6L AWD - 97.8 seconds - 73 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 5.7L RWD - 96.3 seconds - 75 MPH Dodge Durango 3.6L AWD - 101.0 seconds - 72 MPH Dodge Durango 5.7L AWD - 98.8 seconds - 72 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility Hybrid AWD - 98.77 seconds - 73 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.0L EcoBoost AWD - 95.7 seconds - 75 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.3L AWD - 98.4 seconds - 73 MPH Ford F150 Police Responder 3.5L EcoBoost - 103.8 seconds - 69 MPH

Best time for the GTPE- 100 seconds 72 mph.

Barely beat a v6 Durango, and that was only one lap it beat it, it was slower on all other laps.

Seriously Ford…… WTF?
As an aside from the topic of how fast it is, am I the only one thinking how inefficient it would be for an EV police vehicle? Are we going to have officers sitting around charging their cars half the day? Or slowing down on acceleration because they're under 40% battery when something goes down?
 

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As an aside from the topic of how fast it is, am I the only one thinking how inefficient it would be for an EV police vehicle? Are we going to have officers sitting around charging their cars half the day? Or slowing down on acceleration because they're under 40% battery when something goes down?
It would depend on how many miles they drive a day. If under 200, they just plug it in every night. Maybe 200 miles is fine for a regular shift in a city? No clue, maybe an officer could chime in.
 

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No…… pretty much everything was faster:
Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L RWD - 98 seconds - 73 MPH Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L 4WD - 98.9 seconds - 72 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 3.6L AWD - 97.8 seconds - 73 MPH 2021 Dodge Charger 5.7L RWD - 96.3 seconds - 75 MPH Dodge Durango 3.6L AWD - 101.0 seconds - 72 MPH Dodge Durango 5.7L AWD - 98.8 seconds - 72 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility Hybrid AWD - 98.77 seconds - 73 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.0L EcoBoost AWD - 95.7 seconds - 75 MPH Ford Police Interceptor Utility 3.3L AWD - 98.4 seconds - 73 MPH Ford F150 Police Responder 3.5L EcoBoost - 103.8 seconds - 69 MPH

Best time for the GTPE- 100 seconds 72 mph.

Barely beat a v6 Durango, and that was only one lap it beat it, it was slower on all other laps.

Seriously Ford…… WTF?
yeah I really thought the GTPE could shine doing laps on a track with a professional driver, this was my thinking in looking past the 1/4 mile.

the marketing track ride-along gave a very different impression than the reality of underperforming full sized SUVs.

this is beyond software. This was undeniable underperformance in repeated well controlled professional runs on a standardized track.

With such surprisingly lackluster overall performance, I really don’t think I’ll go forward with purchasing at this time.

I’d love for someone to show me the optimistic side of these metrics. Pretty deflated on this vehicle.
 
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