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Hopefully they get the ones with manganese added. Apparently those close the gap for energy density and performance.Need to change the title?
They aren’t lighter.
They’re less energy dense than Lithium Ion.
They’re also way worse in cold weather.
They are cheaper and more fire resistant though. It’s why they’re used in base models typically (cost).
Doesn’t seem to be the case. Seems to be lithium iron phosphate, which is definitely heavier.Hopefully they get the ones with manganese added. Apparently those close the gap for energy density and performance.
That article doesn’t mention LMFP.Doesn’t seem to be the case. Seems to be lithium iron phosphate, which is definitely heavier.
Comparison-
https://owlcation.com/stem/Comparing-6-Lithium-ion-Battery-Types
Correct until US plants are operational you can forget tax credit.And any car equipped with them will be excluded from Tax credits
It’s said Tesla has agreements to use the batteries at least in China. Some reporting says EU is possible.CATL holds the patents for this technology so it’s unlikely we are going to see these batteries in cars sold in the USA, especially following the recent EV tax legislation that is likely to get passed and excludes materials made in China
An interesting decade ahead for sure! I’m practically bouncing in my seat waiting to see what unfolds.Correct until US plants are operational you can forget tax credit.
here is the new tech that CATL is building now.
https://electrek.co/2022/07/22/catl-m3p-batteries/
Another advantage is charging to 100% is no problem for LFP batteries.
Interesting few years ahead for battery technology.
Neither does the video. It does mention lithium iron phosphate, which they seem to be using, which is heavier.That article doesn’t mention LMFP.
I can’t find the study and story about testing in Norway but I know LFP batteries tested well in that cold climate. Range on new formulas is on par with Ternary batteries so shouldn’t be an issue in a year or so. Just need to get US manufacturing going on LFP.Less range, 50% drop during true cold winter weathet os bad news for those of us in the UP of Michigan and Northern Wisconsin where 140 mile distance between dcfc exist.
LFP has been coming a long way. I’m holding my breath that Ford is getting the more up to date chemistry’s. Even if not, I’d personally be happier than a pig in shit to have LFP in a Lightning.Neither does the video. It does mention lithium iron phosphate, which they seem to be using, which is heavier.
Either way, the video doesn’t mention “weight” as an advantage.
If it was, they wouldn’t gloss over it since energy density is one of the most important factors for battery tech.