One Pedal driving Mach-E? Are you a fan?

Are you a fan of one-pedal driving?


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I see one pedal on/off. My guess is final software will have multiple settings, like mild, aggressive, etc like other EV's. This makes it more personalizable. That way one driver can set. Then a spouse for example can set differently and save to their profile.
 

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That doesn’t look like the final screen as every Ford person has said the thee modes are Whisper, Engage, and Unbridled. It looks like those three settings can each be linked to one-pedal or standard, making 6 device/pedal feel options.
 

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That doesn’t look like the final screen as every Ford person has said the thee modes are Whisper, Engage, and Unbridled.
Oh no! - Stampede was my favourite option on that screen. 😄
 

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That sounds like a good idea to me. Do any cars do that? The Tesla doesn't.
(Referring to blending in friction braking as needed for consistent deceleration...)

I don't know. I don't yet have real experience with one pedal driving. However, @JamieGeek posted some great info about blended braking in the Focus Electric.

Others in the forum have stated that the Mustang Mach-E will automatically ramp up friction braking when needed to cause the vehicle to decelerate to zero velocity (and hold zero) while one-pedal braking to a stop light (for instance). I'm not sure of their source for this info, though.
 

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I should have read one post further. Just after Jamie's post is one from @First Edition. He or she cited this article in which Ford exec Darren Palmer is quoted to say “We have integrated the brake system to do that. You get one pedal to bring the vehicle to a stop because we blend in the brakes and hold you on a hill.”
 

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Others in the forum have stated that the Mustang Mach-E will automatically ramp up friction braking when needed to cause the vehicle to decelerate to zero velocity (and hold zero) while one-pedal braking to a stop light (for instance). I'm not sure of their source for this info, though.
At what speed though does the friction braking kick in? The Tesla does that much, but right at the end to bring the car to a stop and hold. I'm not sure really that it would be worth doing more. The amount of time that regenerative braking is limited is pretty short. As soon as you warm the battery up everything goes to normal.
 

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So I was just having another look through all the pics from London - and it looks like there were different versions of the software on the vehicles there. I have another shot which shows that "Stampede" is in fact now called "Unbridled" as per previous posts. Also notice another change to wordings on screen - the "Frunk/Trunk" is now just called "Access".

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So I was just having another look through all the pics from London - and it looks like there were different versions of the software on the vehicles there. I have another shot which shows that "Stampede" is in fact now called "Unbridled" as per previous posts. Also notice another change to wordings on screen - the "Frunk/Trunk" is now just called "Access".

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Since that shot from the European Mach-E press release, is it possible we're going to see different names for the driving modes and other menu options?
 

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Since that shot from the European Mach-E press release, is it possible we're going to see different names for the driving modes and other menu options?
Well from what I can see the photos in the EU Press pack were all taken in the Blue car that was heavily featured in the promos. This car had a German Reg plate on it. The Red and the Grey cars on show both had the same software as per my original photo (with Stampede instead of Unbridled)

I did wonder if say the GT or higher spec cars might have different wording on them to reflect the higher performance acceleration. Bit like the Teslas have Insanity mode - but only on certain models.
 

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In a November podcast after the reveal, it was said that Stampede was the original label used but they instead opted for Unbridled. Either label is cool with me. I'm just glad that the sound effects are optional and one-pedal driving is possible. Porsche Taycan would probably get a lot more range if it had one-pedal driving.
 

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Why would that be?
Taycan just coasts when you let off the accelerator because Porsche wanted to make the car as similar to every other Porsche as possible. It's a lost opportunity to capture energy and add range back to the battery.
 

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Taycan just coasts when you let off the accelerator because Porsche wanted to make the car as similar to every other Porsche as possible. It's a lost opportunity to capture energy and add range back to the battery.
This is what I'm so confused about when people say one-pedal is more efficient. Hitting the brake in my car (traditional hybrid) will regen. How is one pedal more efficient? You can regen via hitting the stop pedal (normal mode) or regen by letting off the go pedal (one-pedal mode).
 

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This is what I'm so confused about when people say one-pedal is more efficient. Hitting the brake in my car (traditional hybrid) will regen. How is one pedal more efficient? You can regen via hitting the stop pedal (normal mode) or regen by letting off the go pedal (one-pedal mode).
I definitely could be convinced otherwise, but so far I'm with you on this. At this point, it seems to just be a matter of personal preference.

Not sure where this guy is getting his info, but he is saying that early EVs didn't have blended braking, so they used heavy regen ("one pedal driving") to get any regen in the first place.

Other articles, like this one, point out that "one pedal driving" varies considerably among manufacturers and in their implementations as they improve over the years.
 

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Yeah that is the thing: Different EV's have had different views of regen during braking. Many don't regen unless you use one pedal mode and many do.

To date all Ford products with a plug have never had a one pedal mode and have had blended braking that automatically regen when you press the brake pedal. This is likely because that is how hybrids work: They have blended braking that regens when you press the brake pedal. In addition: None of the Ford plugins have had one pedal mode: You always have to use the brake pedal to stop.

Pure EVs are different and each OEM has had their own take on braking, regen, and one pedal mode.

I've driven a Model S in one pedal mode and, of course, my Bolt--I use one pedal mode every day.

There really isn't much of a difference between the Model S's one pedal mode and the Bolt (other than the brake lights: Once you come to a complete stop the Bolt turns off the brake lights, the Tesla keeps them on).

Thus the argument that "its more efficient" depends a lot on what you're comparing it to.

On top of all that: You really don't get that many miles out of regen to begin with (just think about the amount of time you're regening vs how much you're driving).
 
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