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I thought I read someplace that one of the driver assistance features on the Mustang Mach E (perhaps only on the Premium) is Pedestrian detection with automatic braking. Is that right? If so, does this extend to other creatures? Specifically, I'm thinking about deer. In the area where I live, there's an extremely large deer population, and they seem to enjoy hiding in the brush beside the road at night, then jumping out in front of passing cars and freezing. directly in front of the vehicle.
 

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I thought I read someplace that one of the driver assistance features on the Mustang Mach E (perhaps only on the Premium) is Pedestrian detection with automatic braking. Is that right? If so, does this extend to other creatures? Specifically, I'm thinking about deer. In the area where I live, there's an extremely large deer population, and they seem to enjoy hiding in the brush beside the road at night, then jumping out in front of passing cars and freezing. directly in front of the vehicle.
Pg 239 of the manual:
WHAT IS PRE-COLLISION ASSIST
Pre-collision assist detects and warns of approaching hazards in the roadway. If your vehicle is rapidly approaching another stationary vehicle, a vehicle traveling in the same direction as yours, or a pedestrian within your driving path, the system provides multiple levels of assistance to help avoid a collision.

HOW DOES PRE-COLLISION ASSIST WORK
The system warns the driver of potential hazards by providing three levels of assistance. If your vehicle is rapidly approaching potential hazards the system provides the following levels of functionality:
1. Alert.
2. Brake Support.
3. Automatic Emergency Braking.

Alert: When active, a flashing visual warning appears and an audible warning tone sounds.
Brake Support: The system is designed to help reduce the impact speed by preparing the brakes for rapid braking. The system does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.
Automatic Emergency Braking:
Automatic emergency braking may activate if the system determines that a
collision is imminent.
Note: If you perceive pre-collision assist alerts as being too frequent or disturbing,
then you can reduce the alert sensitivity, although the manufacturer recommends using the highest sensitivity setting where possible. Setting lower sensitivity would lead to fewer and later system warnings.
Each system has various levels of detection capabilities. See Pre-Collision Assist Limitations (page 240)

Page 240 Pedestrian Limits:
Pedestrian Detection Limitations
Pedestrian detection is active at speeds up to 50 mph (80 km/h).
Pedestrian detection functions optimally when detected hazards are clearly identifiable. System performance may reduce in situations where pedestrians are running, partly obscured, have a complex background, or cannot be distinguished from a group
 
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Oh well, "pedestrian" seems to imply "human being", not other types of creatures, such as deer, dogs, etc. That's unfortunate. I wonder how Tesla's supposed "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving" or whatever handles deer and such?
 

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Oh well, "pedestrian" seems to imply "human being", not other types of creatures, such as deer, dogs, etc. That's unfortunate. I wonder how Tesla's supposed "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving" or whatever handles deer and such?
It probably would work fine for dogs and deer as long as they aren't running.
 

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I thought I read someplace that one of the driver assistance features on the Mustang Mach E (perhaps only on the Premium) is Pedestrian detection with automatic braking. Is that right? If so, does this extend to other creatures? Specifically, I'm thinking about deer. In the area where I live, there's an extremely large deer population, and they seem to enjoy hiding in the brush beside the road at night, then jumping out in front of passing cars and freezing. directly in front of the vehicle.
Volvo is the leader in this area and has been specifically developing software for deer, moose, and even kangaroo detection.

They‘ve been developing the technology for almost ten years and put it in production in 2016. It will detect and brake for large animals, stopped or slowly moving.

Volvo large animal detection

Large animal detection

Kangaroo detection development
 
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That Volvo link says it can't detect running animals. Seems like a system that could detect that and not constantly trip false alarms would be difficult. I've seen a really expensive third party system out there that doesn't automatically brake but highlights animals on like a night vision screen, would be nice if manufacturers implemented that.
 

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Oh well, "pedestrian" seems to imply "human being", not other types of creatures, such as deer, dogs, etc. That's unfortunate. I wonder how Tesla's supposed "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving" or whatever handles deer and such?
Technology of this sort is out there and improving. My current mirrorless DSLR camera can detect humans or animals and can be set to focus on the eye or the body. It does a pretty good job of picking out a person or animal even when it is a small part of the scene and tracks it quite well. Don't know if this would be good enough for a pedestrian or animal warning in a car but the camera is definitely smart enough to find either and determine which it is.
 

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Oh well, "pedestrian" seems to imply "human being", not other types of creatures, such as deer, dogs, etc. That's unfortunate. I wonder how Tesla's supposed "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving" or whatever handles deer and such?
Well, do you happen to have a cutout of a deer? If so, the video shows how to test your AEB. Or not, LOL.

 

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Or you are OK if the deer look like giant hamsters.
If you look close at the video, these 2 clowns are salesmen at a car dealership, testing AEB in the dealer parking lot.

So I'm thinking, what would happen if you showed up at your dealer with a deer cutout under your arm, and said that you want to do a test drive.

To check the AEB, LOL.
 
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Well, do you happen to have a cutout of a deer? If so, the video shows how to test your AEB. Or not, LOL.

So THAT'S what Gus, Pennsylvania's Second Most Famous groundhog does when he's not selling lottery tickets! :D :D:D
 

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Oh well, "pedestrian" seems to imply "human being", not other types of creatures, such as deer, dogs, etc. That's unfortunate. I wonder how Tesla's supposed "Autopilot" or "Full Self Driving" or whatever handles deer and such?
Here's how it handles a pedestrian 🤔


To be fair though none of the cars AAA tested did well at higher speeds and didn't detect at night at all.

Tesla's Autopilot apparently identifies dogs as "pedestrians" so it could potentially add other types of animals... Looking at various videos on the interwebs, Autopilot is inconsistent with deer. Sometimes the car stops/avoids, sometimes it doesn't.
 
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Technology of this sort is out there and improving. My current mirrorless DSLR camera can detect humans or animals and can be set to focus on the eye or the body. It does a pretty good job of picking out a person or animal even when it is a small part of the scene and tracks it quite well. Don't know if this would be good enough for a pedestrian or animal warning in a car but the camera is definitely smart enough to find either and determine which it is.
I've got a Sony Alpha 6000 DSLR and I'll have to reread the instruction manual to see if it has this technology or not. It's probably too old. Getting back to the cars, yes, I think this could be used for pedestrians or animals.
 

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Technology of this sort is out there and improving. My current mirrorless DSLR camera can detect humans or animals and can be set to focus on the eye or the body. It does a pretty good job of picking out a person or animal even when it is a small part of the scene and tracks it quite well. Don't know if this would be good enough for a pedestrian or animal warning in a car but the camera is definitely smart enough to find either and determine which it is.
It detects anything that looks like an eye, and doesn't care if it's wrong. And it doesn't have to care, worst case is a blurry photo.

I would guess you want your car to care. Pretty good is not good enough, as I'm guessing a pedestrian being "pretty dead" is not what you consider a successful avoidance.
 

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I've got a Sony Alpha 6000 DSLR and I'll have to reread the instruction manual to see if it has this technology or not. It's probably too old. Getting back to the cars, yes, I think this could be used for pedestrians or animals.
Sony is making some great mirrorless cameras. Mine is a Canon EOS R5. Love it!
 



 









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