Preparing for Mach-E charging at home - preparation and installing charger

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That looks great actually. And the light works I take it? Also acts as a water deflector. Have to see if Home Depot has something like that.
Sorry about the Home Depot comment, I see that is one of the Chase Station setups. Very nice indeed, but more money than I was hoping to spend.
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Sorry about the Home Depot comment, I see that is one of the Chase Station setups. Very nice indeed, but more money than I was hoping to spend.
Another possibility to search for is a gate control pedestal, if you really want metal instead of a wood post. Not as cheap as wood but not as expensive as an actual EVSE pedestal.

https://gooseneckstands.com/store/p...arge-face-plate-pad-mount-hd-dk-alum-blk.html

Personally though, if I were installing a standalone pedestal, I think I'd just go with a wooden fence post, and maybe top it off with a solar light on top.

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That looks great actually. And the light works I take it? Also acts as a water deflector. Have to see if Home Depot has something like that.
Yes, the lights work...the roof has solar cells on the top to charge batteries, it isn’t hardwired. We opted for a relatively dim illumination level...helps you locate and use the charge connector, but doesn’t really become landscape illumination.
 

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That is quite simply the nicest looking installation I've seen. Bravo.
Thanks. It looks even better with hardwired solutions (like The Tesla wall connector) since you don’t need that NEMA 14-50 box, but I wanted to play around with this solution for mounting different chargers easily via that connector. I think we’ll build a painted metal cover to better hide that NEMA box.

Hardwiring a Grizzl-E in this application was not going to be straightforward...getting the cable into the post cleanly being the challenge. it can’t route straight out the back like other chargers.
 

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Can someone please confirm my understanding as I'm still trying to figure all of this out. I'm going to have an electrician come out and install a 14-50 plug in my garage. A full "tank" on my MME will likely last me a week of commuting so I don't feel I need the fastest available charging. So because of that, I don't "need" the Ford hardwired charger or a Juicebox? I can plug right into the new outlet with the cable supplied with the car? The only reason I'd want the Ford charger or a Juicebox is if I wanted the absolute fastest possible charging?
 


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Can someone please confirm my understanding as I'm still trying to figure all of this out. I'm going to have an electrician come out and install a 14-50 plug in my garage. A full "tank" on my MME will likely last me a week of commuting so I don't feel I need the fastest available charging. So because of that, I don't "need" the Ford hardwired charger or a Juicebox? I can plug right into the new outlet with the cable supplied with the car? The only reason I'd want the Ford charger or a Juicebox is if I wanted the absolute fastest possible charging?
Mobile Charger should definitely meet your needs.
 

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Can someone please confirm my understanding as I'm still trying to figure all of this out. I'm going to have an electrician come out and install a 14-50 plug in my garage. A full "tank" on my MME will likely last me a week of commuting so I don't feel I need the fastest available charging. So because of that, I don't "need" the Ford hardwired charger or a Juicebox? I can plug right into the new outlet with the cable supplied with the car? The only reason I'd want the Ford charger or a Juicebox is if I wanted the absolute fastest possible charging?
Yes, that's my understanding and I'm doing the same thing you are. 32 amp Level 2 Ford Mobile Charger is absolutely adequate unless you are a speed freak or want your car charged faster due to a real need. Everyone's situation is different but I personally don't care as overnight to 80% is just fine (90 - 100% is much longer) and it sounds like it would work for you too. Sure the hard wired unit also has a few bells and whistles on it (can communicate with charger via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth and use Ford Pass to adjust SOC, times of charge, getting your car heated or air conditioned, etc.). You can program your Mach E to do the same thing manually and I believe the Ford Pass will recognize the car's charging too via Wi-Fi (correct me if I'm wrong) and your Mach E has Bluetooth. You get the 110 volt and 240 volt mobile charger included with the car so who wants to spend $800+ if you don't need the speed or the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Ford Pass control of the Ford Connect Charger. Just my $0.02.
 
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Can someone please confirm my understanding as I'm still trying to figure all of this out. I'm going to have an electrician come out and install a 14-50 plug in my garage. A full "tank" on my MME will likely last me a week of commuting so I don't feel I need the fastest available charging. So because of that, I don't "need" the Ford hardwired charger or a Juicebox? I can plug right into the new outlet with the cable supplied with the car? The only reason I'd want the Ford charger or a Juicebox is if I wanted the absolute fastest possible charging?
Correct. The Ford Mobile Charger that comes with the Mach-E can plug into a 14-50 outlet and charge at 32A. 32A x 240V = 7.6 kW. That's 7.6 kWh per hour of charging (actually more like 7 with some loss while charging). That will easily fill the battery in less than 12 hours overnight.

Some of us chose to go ahead and buy a separate charger anyway (like a Grizzl-E for $400) so we can just leave the Ford Mobile Charger in the car for emergencies (rare as they would be), just to have one mounted on the wall. And because the 30% federal tax credit that expires in 2 weeks made it a bargain. But it's not necessary to buy one. The included one will work fine.
 

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Correct. The Ford Mobile Charger that comes with the Mach-E can plug into a 14-50 outlet and charge at 32A. 32A x 240V = 7.6 kW. That's 7.6 kWh per hour of charging (actually more like 7 with some loss while charging). That will easily fill the battery in less than 12 hours overnight.
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If you install a charger at home so that you can have your portable charger in case of emergency, how would that work? The 110 charger is just about worthless for charging. And to use the 240 charger, you'd have to be somewhere that there was access to a 240V plug right? I wouldn't think most people are going to have a 240V plug anywhere that would be readily within reach of the length of the supplied cord? So you would you use it in that case?
 

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Thank you for your reply.
If you install a charger at home so that you can have your portable charger in case of emergency, how would that work? The 110 charger is just about worthless for charging. And to use the 240 charger, you'd have to be somewhere that there was access to a 240V plug right? I wouldn't think most people are going to have a 240V plug anywhere that would be readily within reach of the length of the supplied cord? So you would you use it in that case?
There are a number of garages with a 240V receptacle for things like welders. Some cities/businesses/hotels also have 240V receptacles available. Also - in the case of an emergency, 120V could be a life saver, some power is better than no power.

Additional benefit of a having a stationary charger at home on a 14-50 receptacle is that if it goes bad, you can just plug in the mobile charger and keep on charging.
 

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Thank you for your reply.
If you install a charger at home so that you can have your portable charger in case of emergency, how would that work? The 110 charger is just about worthless for charging. And to use the 240 charger, you'd have to be somewhere that there was access to a 240V plug right? I wouldn't think most people are going to have a 240V plug anywhere that would be readily within reach of the length of the supplied cord? So you would you use it in that case?
If I drive to visit family this summer, I plan to unplug their electric range and plug in there overnight for a full charge.
 

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Thank you for your reply.
If you install a charger at home so that you can have your portable charger in case of emergency, how would that work? The 110 charger is just about worthless for charging. And to use the 240 charger, you'd have to be somewhere that there was access to a 240V plug right? I wouldn't think most people are going to have a 240V plug anywhere that would be readily within reach of the length of the supplied cord? So you would you use it in that case?
My thoughts exactly! I was planning on taking my Ford Mobile Charger with me in the car when I visit my daughter up in Sycamore Illinois just in case I can't find a charger up there (very rural and even the new Meijer doesn't have a DC charger let alone a Level 2 charger) but the 110 volt Level 1 charger is useless as I wouldn't want to stay days to get the car charged to go home. She, of course, doesn't have a 32 amp 240 volt SEMA 14-50 plug in her garage. The "emergency" rationale for taking the Mobile Charger with you doesn't hold water for most situations IMHO unless you're certain you have access to somebody with a Level 2 outlet in their residence. It makes a lot more sense to leave your 32 amp 240 volt Mobile Charger attached to your garage wall with the included mounting bracket and plan ahead with the many EV charging programs that map out where charging stations are (personally I prefer EA if available). Just my $0.02.
 

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There are a number of garages with a 240V receptacle for things like welders. Some cities/businesses/hotels also have 240V receptacles available. Also - in the case of an emergency, 120V could be a life saver, some power is better than no power.

Additional benefit of a having a stationary charger at home on a 14-50 receptacle is that if it goes bad, you can just plug in the mobile charger and keep on charging.
14-50 outlet? 50 amp circuit breaker? You're right about 110 volt charger in an "emergency" but I sure wouldn't want to remain days for this emergency!
 

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If I drive to visit family this summer, I plan to unplug their electric range and plug in there overnight for a full charge.
14-50 outlet? 50 amp circuit breaker? Where's the electric range located? According to Ford and electricians you're not supposed to use extension cords with charger (unless they're rated for 50 amp service - #6 gauge wire).
 

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Thank you for your reply.
If you install a charger at home so that you can have your portable charger in case of emergency, how would that work? The 110 charger is just about worthless for charging. And to use the 240 charger, you'd have to be somewhere that there was access to a 240V plug right? I wouldn't think most people are going to have a 240V plug anywhere that would be readily within reach of the length of the supplied cord? So you would you use it in that case?
The 110 charger isn't "just about worthless". For people who don't drive much it may satisfy their needs. However, you probably want something faster for your primary. I have used the 100 charger at a destination, getting a full charge of our 30 kWh Leaf in less than a day. That will go up to 2-3 days for a full MME EX or E4X charge. I have also used it for emergency power on the road.
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