Preparing for Mach-E charging at home - preparation and installing charger

[Sweetwater]

That’s IF the hard wired charger is NOT used!!! If a hard wired charger similar to Ford’s “Connect” charger is used, it already has GFCI circuitry onboard and using a GFCI breaker will confuse the circuitry and cause it to “fault” interrupting charging! Tell your electrician about this when he quotes code.

Nope read it again. It does not state that.

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[Illinibird]

No worries. I ended up shelling out about $1,300 to have a licensed electrician come out and trench my yard and run conduit to my detached garage and install a 14-50 NEMA outlet. Don't think I will be installing charging station at this point, but I will say that the $1,300 that this guy did it for came in much less than what I was quoted by a ouome other companies, so I am crossing my find gers that it all works when I get my MACH e home...

Hope he used 4 gauge wire to make the run to the 14-50 NEMA outlet. For 60 amp breaker this is code. May need a larger diameter conduit as well (even larger than a 50 amp circuit conduit). My electrician installed a 50 amp GFCI breaker and 6 gauge wire in oversized conduit (knocked out the larger diameter “plug” in the panel box and junction boxes along with using a larger 240 volt diameter conduit (larger than the 110 volt conduit).

When I wanted him to “swap out” the 50 amp GFCI breaker for a 60 amp breaker in possible anticipation of purchasing & installing the Ford “Connect” hardwired charger he couldn’t do it without charging me AGAIN for the installation of the 14-50 outlet to my garage. NO WAY was I going to pay another $745.00!!!!!!

 

[dbsb3233]

Hope he used 4 gauge wire to make the run to the 14-50 NEMA outlet. For 60 amp breaker this is code. May need a larger diameter conduit as well (even larger than a 50 amp circuit conduit!). My electrician installed a 50 amp GFCI breaker and 6 gauge wire in oversized conduit (knocked ou the larger diameter “plug” in he panel box ad junction boxes along with using a larger 240 volt diameter conduit (than the 110 volt conduit).

Unlikely this was a 60A circuit. Typically that needs to be hardwired to the charger, but he said it's a 14-50 outlet. So presumably a 50A or 40A circuit. That usually doesn't need 4 gauge, unless it's a really long run.

They used 6 gauge on my 50A circuit (about a 50' run from the breaker). I think for that even 8 gauge would have been sufficient, but they went with 6 just to be extra careful. Probably wise for a continuous drain application like an EVSE.

 

[Sweetwater]

Settle down everyone. Just hire an electrician. How many of you or your
friends have a 240 Volt welder or air compressor in your garage ?
Are they GFCI protected ? No because it is not required.

 

[Sweetwater]

Hope he used 4 gauge wire to make the run to the 14-50 NEMA outlet. For 60 amp breaker this is code. May need a larger diameter conduit as well (even larger than a 50 amp circuit conduit). My electrician installed a 50 amp GFCI breaker and 6 gauge wire in oversized conduit (knocked out the larger diameter “plug” in the panel box and junction boxes along with using a larger 240 volt diameter conduit (larger than the 110 volt conduit).

When I wanted him to “swap out” the 50 amp GFCI breaker for a 60 amp breaker in possible anticipation of purchasing & installing the Ford “Connect” hardwired charger he couldn’t do it without charging me AGAIN for the installation of the 14-50 outlet to my garage. NO WAY was I going to pay another $745.00!!!!!!

You did not need that $$$$ GFCI breaker.

 

[Illinibird]

Nope read it again. It does not state that.

You’re WRONG! Please READ the installation instructions that FORD recommends using for their Ford “Connect” hard wired charger!! You can go with your electrician and his quoted code (which is BTW correct) but if there should be a fire don’t be surprised if your insurance tries to get out of paying it because installation instructions WERE NOT followed! You can pay me now or pay me later!

 

[Illinibird]

You did not need that $$$$ GFCI breaker.

WRONG

 

[SteveJo]

That’s IF the hard wired charger is NOT used!!! If a hard wired charger similar to Ford’s “Connect” charger is used, it already has GFCI circuitry onboard and using a GFCI breaker will confuse the circuitry and cause it to “fault” interrupting charging! Tell your electrician about this when he quotes code.

Suppose one installed a PLUG-IN wall charger with it's own GFCI. Would the non-GFCI breaker circuit be "legal" with charger plugged-in and not when not? Could be a knotty issue.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

As others said, that's not an option. One possibility (depending on your usage) is just to charge at 120V, but it's slow. The included charger appears to be 8A at 120V, adding about 3 miles per hour. But if you have an unused 20A circuit to the garage, you could get a 16A 120V charger to add about 6 miles per hour, if that were enough for your needs. But it's rare to have a totally unused 20A circuit. Couldn't be shared concurrently while charging. Although there might be an automated switch available, and the garage door opener often has a dedicated circuit.

Kinda of a last resort option, but a consideration if no other good choices.

No need to get another charger has the Ford Mobile charger can probably be set up to 16 Amp on a 20 Amp circuit, and yes any charger on a 120 V outlet should not share the circuit with anything else.

 

[Sweetwater]

Does anyone know how a GFCI breaker works ?

 

[dbsb3233]

No need to get another charger has the Ford Mobile charger can probably be set up to 16 Amp on a 20 Amp circuit, and yes any charger on a 120 V outlet should not share the circuit with anything else.

I'm still doubtful that the Ford Mobile Charger will do anything other than 8A at 120V, but the wording we've seen is vague (like so much else), so hard to say for sure. Guess we'll find out in a few months.

 

[Sweetwater]

You’re WRONG! Please READ the installation instructions that FORD recommends using for their Ford “Connect” hard wired charger!! You can go with your electrician and his quoted code (which is BTW correct) but if there should be a fire don’t be surprised if your insurance tries to get out of paying it because installation instructions WERE NOT followed! You can pay me now or pay me later!

You want Ford's install instructions used. Remember the Code supersedes all.
Post Ford's inst.
P.S. You are wrong.

 

[dbsb3233]

Does anyone know how a GFCI breaker works ?

 

[Illinibird]

You want Ford's install instructions used. Remember the Code supersedes all.
Post Ford's inst.
P.S. You are wrong.

I rest my case; do as you please.

 

[Illinibird]

You want Ford's install instructions used. Remember the Code supersedes all.
Post Ford's inst.
P.S. You are wrong.

See my reply. I won’t post anymore so you’re free to do as you please! We’re all brothers in this forum and we all want to do the right thing when it comes to our future cars. No more pissing contests!

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