Sandy Munro checks out Ford's BlueCruise

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[garfieldorlando]

Well, have to say quite disappointed, the show is miserable. It cannot handle the "sharp curve" on the highway. Just seems to be a rebranded standard L2 system... I will not pay even $600 for it if I have to control the car for such so called "sharp curve", this is laughable enough.... Also there seems to be lacking the audio alerts when it disengages which is a huge concern. The $3200 + $600 cost for such system which cannot even match the basic capability of free Tesla AP is quite high.

 

[Stang68]

Pretty funny he just blatantly tells the Ford engineer he is not happy with BlueCruise.

 

[TheSteelRider]

I think I understand one of Sandy's complaints. He was saying that when the car was approaching a curve, he didn't know "what the car was going to do". Currently with the hands-on driving assist of the Mach E (and our Honda Pilot which has the same feature, they call it Lane Keeping Assist), I have a similar feeling.

Basically, if you watch the Tesla FSD Autopilot videos, the car projects a line indicating where it is going to go to the vehicle screens. I think this is what Sandy was talking about, and I think it is fair spot-on criticism of not only Blue Cruise, but again pretty much every other automaker besides Tesla. I'd like to know, in advance, what my car is going to do. Although I disagree with a decent amount of what Sandy says, I think he hit this one spot on.

 

[garfieldorlando]

Pretty funny he just blatantly tells the Ford engineer he is not happy with BlueCruise.

I wonder why Ford wants him to check it out. My worry is that Ford think this system is "superior" enough against some T and want to show off? The show is absolutely miserable and no where to defend the mach E if it cannot even handle the so called "sharp curve", and it is on highway. Hands-free is meaningless if you have to put your hands back frequently in these normal driving conditions, and it indeed makes driving more dangerous and stressful with frequent disengage.

 

[TheSteelRider]

...it cannot even handle the so called "sharp curve", and it is on highway. Hands-free is meaningless if you have to put your hands back frequently in these normal driving conditions.

Agree. Although we are confined to the 2D world (a YouTube video) to experience it with him, the curve didn't appear to fit my personal definition of a "sharp" curve. That looked to me like a fairly normal bend in an interstate roadway. I'm reserving harsher criticism and banking on OTAs improving the feature substantially over time, but this is a make-or-break moment for Ford that appears to be not better than my almost 6-year-old Honda which does not cost me a subscription to use. Come on Ford, we're counting on you!

 

[JoeDimwit]

I live out by I-75, and am very familiar with those 2 curves. I am beyond disappointed if the system can’t handle those turns on it’s own. There is a much sharper curve a couple miles south of there that I would still expect the system to be able to handle on its own. The only thing that makes any sense to me is that possibly they are concerned with a vehicle stopping just out of range of the front radar laterally.

one thing that I did like is that they drove through an area that my intelligent cruise thinks the speed limit drops from 70 to 65, and the car didn’t attempt to slow. So that’s a plus. I guess.

 

[trutolife27]

Well, have to say quite disappointed, the show is miserable. It cannot handle the "sharp curve" on the highway. Just seems to be a rebranded standard L2 system... I will not pay even $600 for it if I have to control the car for such so called "sharp curve", this is laughable enough.... Also there seems to be lacking the audio alerts when it disengages which is a huge concern. The $3200 + $600 cost for such system which cannot even match the basic capability of free Tesla AP is quite high.

it can take the curve. it was his miss use and the ford guy doesn't really know. there was an off-ramp if the blue cruise didn't know what he wanted to do after switching lanes and accidentally bumping the cruise. the blue cruise will be just fine.

 

[garfieldorlando]

The hardware Mach E has (mobileye Q4) has the capability to do much better job. NIO ES8 uses the same chipset and setup and it can do far more than what mach E offers. In other words, all are down to the software and model running with it. No doubt Ford is great car manufacturer but probably will never become a competent software company. Unfortunately, the new generation of cars, aka EVs, software becomes the core of the whole thing.

 

[Stang68]

it can take the curve. it was his miss use and the ford guy doesn't really know. there was an off-ramp if the blue cruise didn't know what he wanted to do after switching lanes and accidentally bumping the cruise. the blue cruise will be just fine.

Incorrect...it disengages right here in the video without anyone touching it and the Ford guy literally says it cannot handle some curves:

 

[MG101]

it can take the curve. it was his miss use and the ford guy doesn't really know. there was an off-ramp if the blue cruise didn't know what he wanted to do after switching lanes and accidentally bumping the cruise. the blue cruise will be just fine.

They system asked him to take wheel before he changed lanes. He was asking about it hitting the apex on sharper turns when it started telling at him. Oops guess not.

 

[trutolife27]

Incorrect...it disengages right here in the video without anyone touching it and the Ford guy literally says it cannot handle some curves:

not all of the blue cruise is the same in each test so far. Certain ones have made those curves no problem. Again somehow people know this. Blue cruise is a work in progress and not the same software in each one. When blue cruise does come out or to be more point on when the beta testing starts it won't have all the features active. Some people have already tested it for a while.

 

[garfieldorlando]

I would rather Ford not putting this BlueCruise out instead of telling everyone how bad it is. This miserable show indeed tells everyone how far behind even comparing to the free Tesla AP. Is this an advertisement? Frankly it destroyed my hope that Ford can catch up. With this thing, I see the bigger gap and I feel Ford will never be able to catch up.

 

[Stang68]

not all of the blue cruise is the same in each test so far. Certain ones have made those curves no problem. Again somehow people know this. Blue cruise is a work in progress and not the same software in each one. When blue cruise does come out or to be more point on when the beta testing starts it won't have all the features active. Some people have already tested it for a while.

Well, call me old fashioned but I'm just going by what my eyes are seeing in this video and what the Ford rep who is the CHIEF ENGINEER OF DRIVER ASSIST TECHNOLOGIES is saying in said video lol
Hope it gets better but this was...not great.

 

[BMT1071]

I would rather Ford not putting this BlueCruise out instead of telling everyone how bad it is. This miserable show indeed tells everyone how far behind even comparing to the free Tesla AP. Is this an advertisement? Frankly it destroyed my hope and believe that Ford can catch up. But with this thing, I see the bigger gap and I feel Ford will never be able to catch up.

You should probably stop pretending you own a Mach E and go back to your Tesla-stan forum.

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