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The lie about Tesla's range advantage lives on....
I don't watch for Sandy's editorials.

Several issues, but to start with, his chart should have excluded pack weight since the pack is also part of the vehicle structure, and the percentage of body structure represented by each pack design differs. It would have been more useful to see curb weight with cell capacity and true range, but there's no way Munro and Associates will be able to pull that together (true range is too fuzzy).

I am happy to see all the effort Ford put into protecting the pack during crash events.

I hope Ford finds a way to donate a Mach-E to Weber Auto so that Professor Kelly can explain everything to us and show the shop tools, etc. :) I'm especially interested to learn how the various cooling systems work.
 

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First video where I've been a little worried by what I've seen. Rear anti-roll bar bushes look to be battery out job to change.

Even worse the brake lines are sandwiched between the floor at the battery meaning visual inspection and future replacement is another battery out job. Not great for the long term.

Not a problem now, but likely a pain in the arse in ten years time when these jobs need doing.
 

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Not gonna lie for some reason I thought it would be way harder to get the battery out, but it makes sense that it would just be a couple cooling lines and a bunch of bolts.
 


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First video where I've been a little worried by what I've seen. Rear anti-roll bar bushes look to be battery out job to change.

Even worse the brake lines are sandwiched between the floor at the battery meaning visual inspection and future replacement is another battery out job. Not great for the long term.

Not a problem now, but likely a pain in the arse in ten years time when these jobs need doing.
I thought about that but realistically when was the last time someone replaced the full brake lines in their car? Even in every old car that I've owned from the 80's through the 90's I've never needed to do that. That would pretty much only happen if there was damage, and they're really well protected. Not something I'd actually worry about in reality.
 
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Not gonna lie for some reason I thought it would be way harder to get the battery out, but it makes sense that it would just be a couple cooling lines and a bunch of bolts.
The Bolt's battery removal is very similar:

 

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Yeah now that I've seen this one it makes sense it's as easy as it is, I guess I'm just used to engineers making the mechanic's life harder than it needs to be. I expected like taking out both motors first to get to half the battery, or like removing all the seats to get to 4 screws or something ridiculous like that.
 

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I thought about that but realistically when was the last time someone replaced the full brake lines in their car? Even in every old car that I've owned from the 80's through the 90's I've never needed to do that. That would pretty much only happen if there was damage, and they're really well protected. Not something I'd actually worry about in reality.
Protected, or in a potential damp tramp? I don't know about how things are on your side of the pond, but mild steel still rusts with salty roads here like it did 30 years ago.

I don't really care, my car will be long out of my ownership before that happens to me, but given how quickly our V8 Mustang started to rust in the UK climate, I don't like what I've seen on the Mach-E here.
 
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First video where I've been a little worried by what I've seen. Rear anti-roll bar bushes look to be battery out job to change.

Even worse the brake lines are sandwiched between the floor at the battery meaning visual inspection and future replacement is another battery out job. Not great for the long term.

Not a problem now, but likely a pain in the arse in ten years time when these jobs need doing.
I replaced the brake lines on our truck, they were 50 years old. Put in new stainless, should last pretty much forever. I hope in 10 years to drop a new battery in the Mustang and maybe get some longer range.
 

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Yeah now that I've seen this one it makes sense it's as easy as it is, I guess I'm just used to engineers making the mechanic's life harder than it needs to be. I expected like taking out both motors first to get to half the battery, or like removing all the seats to get to 4 screws or something ridiculous like that.
Spoken like a former technician. ?? Late '90s S-10 Blazer heater case removal is one of my favorites. ?
 

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I replaced the brake lines on our truck, they were 50 years old. Put in new stainless, should last pretty much forever. I hope in 10 years to drop a new battery in the Mustang and maybe get some longer range.
That's an interesting take. I wonder if the new 'modifications' to EV's would be battery swaps that allow for more power and things like that. It could definitely help the longevity of the 2021/2022 Mach E if you could do a direct solid state battery swap in 5 years.
 

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First video where I've been a little worried by what I've seen. Rear anti-roll bar bushes look to be battery out job to change.

Even worse the brake lines are sandwiched between the floor at the battery meaning visual inspection and future replacement is another battery out job. Not great for the long term.

Not a problem now, but likely a pain in the arse in ten years time when these jobs need doing.
I don't think either of your concerns are real issues. Hard brake lines don't need to be replaced, or really even inspected, unless they are damaged. They will typically last the life of the car. Roll-bar bushings may need to be replaced, but as you say, thats 10 years or more into the live of the car. Wouldn't worry me in the least.
 

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Several issues, but to start with, his chart should have excluded pack weight since the pack is also part of the vehicle structure, and the percentage of body structure represented by each pack design differs. It would have been more useful to see curb weight with cell capacity and true range, but there's no way Munro and Associates will be able to pull that together (true range is too fuzzy).
He made it very clear going through the chart so you issue is a non issue. I suppose that is a problem if you only look at the chart and not watch the video. He did not have a concern with the mach e battery weight / range. It was mainly the i-pace and etron that were of a concern...

I'll be more interested to see when he takes the battery apart...
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