Shopping for a Home Charger

[zhackwyatt]

#6 Cu wire is expensive and very hard to pull. $36 on Home Depot for 50' and you need 4 conductors. Has to be run in 1" conduit.

Right. My point was @hybrid2bev was getting more for less money.

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[mbia]

Has there been a poll on which chargers people will be opting to buy and install? The Ford charger looks like it will not deliver until late-December or more realistically early January. In addition to the Ford charger, I'm looking at Chargepoint, Juicebox, etc. but still struggling to understand differences/advantages of one over the other. Thought a poll would highlight a leader.

 

[back_at_it_19]

I went with a Juicebox 48 ($639) for fastest charging, but it needs a 60 amp circuit and hard wired. We also have a CMax Energi and a Fusion Energi. Needed a whole new 200 amp electric box (boo!) bc we were maxed with the 100(?) amp supply after a kitchen reno couple years back. Almost added a new box back then but squeaked by and maxed it out. So the electrician bill was a lot higher... $3700. Since we needed to add a new box for any level charger, went with the 60 amp juicebox 48.

Don’t forget to save your receipts and claim the $1000 federal tax credit on your income taxes!

 

[bshaw]

Has there been a poll on which chargers people will be opting to buy and install? The Ford charger looks like it will not deliver until late-December or more realistically early January. In addition to the Ford charger, I'm looking at Chargepoint, Juicebox, etc. but still struggling to understand differences/advantages of one over the other. Thought a poll would highlight a leader.

I ordered the Grizzl-e because it has a great name, and if you check out the videos on their site, there is one where the CEO drives over the charger with a car and shows it still working afterwards. Maybe others have different criteria on which to base their decision....

Also, its available now, and can draw up to 40A from a standard 14-50 outlet, which is what I wanted. My utility company does not offer any time-of-day pricing, so I don't really see a need for any of the "smart" features that other products offer.

I am hoping the MME itself will have some simple charge settings like stopping charging at 80%, and/or telling it you won't drive again until 7am tomorrow, etc.

 

[mbia]

I ordered the Grizzl-e because it has a great name, and if you check out the videos on their site, there is one where the CEO drives over the charger with a car and shows it still working afterwards. Maybe others have different criteria on which to base their decision....

Also, its available now, and can draw up to 40A from a standard 14-50 outlet, which is what I wanted. My utility company does not offer any time-of-day pricing, so I don't really see a need for any of the "smart" features that other products offer.

I am hoping the MME itself will have some simple charge settings like stopping charging at 80%, and/or telling it you won't drive again until 7am tomorrow, etc.

Is this the one?
https://grizzl-e.com/product/usa/chargers-usa/grizzl-e-classic-nema-14-50/

 

[DaveQ]

I just had JuiceBox 40 installed. Consistently high ratings at a good price.

 

[jhalkias]

Is this the one?
https://grizzl-e.com/product/usa/chargers-usa/grizzl-e-classic-nema-14-50/

That is the exact one I got. There was a promotion that is now expired with one of the blogs to get I think $25 off at the time. I opted for the longer charge cable too. My electrician here in Ohio charged me $120 to do it on the side - I bought all the materials (Wire, Plug, breaker) which were about another $150

 

[Ciero]

I am hoping the MME itself will have some simple charge settings like stopping charging at 80%, and/or telling it you won't drive again until 7am tomorrow, etc.

It definitely has that ability, which is partially why I didn't think I'd need the wifi options available at this time. I saw GrizzlE had an upgrade path planned to add WifI to existing charge units soon, so if my desires change I'm assuming it won't be a huge cost to add that feature.

 

[bshaw]

Is this the one?
https://grizzl-e.com/product/usa/chargers-usa/grizzl-e-classic-nema-14-50/

Yes, that's the one I ordered. Mine will be outside, so I got the premium cable which is better in cold weather. Also, I will be mounting on the side of our house near the driveway and will paint the box the same color as our house.
Since its an outlet and not hard-wired, I could decide to use a different product in a couple of years without requiring an electrician to switch it over.

 

[Lukeh02]

I went with a Juicebox 48 ($639) for fastest charging, but it needs a 60 amp circuit and hard wired. We also have a CMax Energi and a Fusion Energi. Needed a whole new 200 amp electric box (boo!) bc we were maxed with the 100(?) amp supply after a kitchen reno couple years back. Almost added a new box back then but squeaked by and maxed it out. So the electrician bill was a lot higher... $3700. Since we needed to add a new box for any level charger, went with the 60 amp juicebox 48.

Don’t forget to save your receipts and claim the $1000 federal tax credit on your income taxes!

it is 30% off tax credit, up to $1,000.

 

[Plutoman15]

Is the juicebox 80 for one car or two? 80amps is huge. Will it charge one car at that rate or will you only give one car half that much juice?

 

[JamieGeek]

Is the juicebox 80 for one car or two? 80amps is huge. Will it charge one car at that rate or will you only give one car half that much juice?

The charge rate is the lessor of what the car can charge at and what the EVSE can provide.

An 80 amp EVSE connected to a car that can only charge at 10kW will charge at 10kW.

 

[Plutoman15]

The charge rate is the lessor of what the car can charge at and what the EVSE can provide.

An 80 amp EVSE connected to a car that can only charge at 10kW will charge at 10kW.

So for the mach e that can charge at 150kw it will charge at what rate with a 80 amp charger? Sorry I don’t know the math.

 

[JamieGeek]

So for the mach e that can charge at 150kw it will charge at what rate with a 80 amp charger? Sorry I don’t know the math.

Nope we're talking Level-2 chargers here not DCFC. Elsewhere in the forums it has been mentioned that the fastest the Mach-E will charge on a Level-2 is around 10kW.

Using DCFC it will charge at 150kW max (it depends on the starting state of the battery, temperature, etc. DCFC stuff is complicated).

Remember EV's have 2 ways to charge:

• Using AC which is called either Level-1 (120V) or Level-2(240V)
• Using DC which is called DCFC (or fast charging)

On AC it maxes out inside the Mach-E around 10kW.

On DC it can go as high as 150kW.

 

[dbsb3233]

So for the mach e that can charge at 150kw it will charge at what rate with a 80 amp charger? Sorry I don’t know the math.

It won't charge at 80A AC. Max is 48A. Adds about 31 miles per hour.

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