(Solved) Best alternative for Ford's charger and possible rebates..

[B Gray]

I imagine most have seen this video of something similar .

Charging Basics: How to Charge Your Mustang Mach-E | Ford - Bing video

I have the 220 Volt Dedicated plug set to go. 21 per hour vs 30 Per Hour for the Ford Charge Station

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[JayDoc]

What are you guys going with? Ford's connected charger? or are there any better or equal products out there which cost less and possibly have incentives from your utility provider.
In my area, the utility provider is giving a rebate of $500 for charges that cost 599/699, https://www.snopud.com/?p=3808

What is the best recommended one?

I installed a NEMA 14-50 240 plug myself in the garage and attached a $600 Juicebox next to it. Don’t want to have to unpack the charger from the car each evening.

 

[kgautam28]

[Update]

Thank you everyone for your valuable assistance. I'm going ahead with Charge point CPH50

This particular model has $500 rebate from my utility provider and also qualifies for clean energy tax credits for the cost of charger and installation.

Washington state Snohomish PUD. https://www.snopud.com/?p=3808


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What are you guys going with? Ford's connected charger? or are there any better or equal products out there which cost less and possibly have incentives from your utility provider.
In my area, the utility provider is giving a rebate of $500 for charges that cost 599/699, https://www.snopud.com/?p=3808

What is the best recommended one?

 

[Ginger]

Like some others, I readily admit to total ignorance on this topic. I am just getting ready to order my Mach E. I understand I will need to have one of my 120 outlets converted to a 240. I am trying to decide if I want o purchase a plug in charger so I can keep the charger that comes with the car in the car, or purchase a 3rd party plug in that will give me 26 miles/hour on a 12h charge. (if that is correct...)
I see the charger that comes with the car will give me 20 miles/h on a 15 hour charge. Is that what others are finding? One of the You-Tube videos indicated if your breaker is 200, you need to calculate how much you have left. Do I add each number on the switches to determine how much I am currently using? If so that means I am currently using 174. Am I looking at expanding my breaker box?

 

[timbop]

Like some others, I readily admit to total ignorance on this topic. I am just getting ready to order my Mach E. I understand I will need to have one of my 120 outlets converted to a 240. I am trying to decide if I want o purchase a plug in charger so I can keep the charger that comes with the car in the car, or purchase a 3rd party plug in that will give me 26 miles/hour on a 12h charge. (if that is correct...)
I see the charger that comes with the car will give me 20 miles/h on a 15 hour charge. Is that what others are finding? One of the You-Tube videos indicated if your breaker is 200, you need to calculate how much you have left. Do I add each number on the switches to determine how much I am currently using? If so that means I am currently using 174. Am I looking at expanding my breaker box?

• You don't generally "convert" a 120 outlet to 240; typically an electrician will simply add a new 240v circuit just for your charger
• I would suggest you go with a 240V outlet so that you can start with the mobile charger that comes with the car and see if that meets your needs. if it does, then no need to buy anything else.
• FYI chargers are rate in how much current they can draw, which is rated in "amps". The mobile charger will do 32 amps, and the fastest plugin charger you can get is 40 amps - so not a huge difference in speed. The bigger reason to get a third party charger are the additional "smart" features like being able to see charging statistics, and the fact that they are typically more robust
• You should be fine with adding another outlet, but I would highly recommend having an electrician figure that out and of course do the work. Be aware that since EV's are drawing power for hours on end, the circuit that they are put on has to be rated 25% higher than what the charger is actually rated to draw. So for a 40 amp charger, the circuit needs to be 50 amps. For that reason, even if you only plan to use the 32 amp mobile charger for now you should have a 50 amp circuit put in to "future proof".
• Some people will suggest the ford connected charger or other hardwired chargers that can draw 48 amps (on a 60 amp circuit). It's a matter of preference, but it really isn't necessary unless you know you're going to drain the car to 10% or below every day and need to fully charge overnight for the next day. Not many people drive 200 or more miles per day.

 

[Totallyford]

• You don't generally "convert" a 120 outlet to 240; typically an electrician will simply add a new 240v circuit just for your charger
• I would suggest you go with a 240V outlet so that you can start with the mobile charger that comes with the car and see if that meets your needs. if it does, then no need to buy anything else.
• FYI chargers are rate in how much current they can draw, which is rated in "amps". The mobile charger will do 32 amps, and the fastest plugin charger you can get is 40 amps - so not a huge difference in speed. The bigger reason to get a third party charger are the additional "smart" features like being able to see charging statistics, and the fact that they are typically more robust
• You should be fine with adding another outlet, but I would highly recommend having an electrician figure that out and of course do the work. Be aware that since EV's are drawing power for hours on end, the circuit that they are put on has to be rated 25% higher than what the charger is actually rated to draw. So for a 40 amp charger, the circuit needs to be 50 amps. For that reason, even if you only plan to use the 32 amp mobile charger for now you should have a 50 amp circuit put in to "future proof".
• Some people will suggest the ford connected charger or other hardwired chargers that can draw 48 amps (on a 60 amp circuit). It's a matter of preference, but it really isn't necessary unless you know you're going to drain the car to 10% or below every day and need to fully charge overnight for the next day. Not many people drive 200 or more miles per day.

I installed a 14/50 240v circuit an use the charger that came with the car. I now have 1200 mi on my car. I can't get wifi in my garage so no point in after market charger. Today my car was at 36% when I plugged it in. The car will start charging at 11 pm and will complete its charge at 7:55 am at 90%. This will give me an approximate range of 240>250 mi. again using the Ford provided charger. Any anxiety I once had about charging has since evaporated. I hope this helps, good luck and have fun with your mach e.

 

[Jeffvisor]

I went with the Chargepoint Flex. I'm very happy with it. Pretty much free after Fed and local electric company rebates (including the installation).

I bought the Wallbox Pulsar Plus 40 amp plug in. It has 25 foot cable great reviews and the app gives you alot of useful information.

 

[Ginger]

Thanks for information. I hired an electrician, he came over and said we have the space in out circuit board (whew!) So I ordered the Chargepoint Flex. I will have the electrician install 50 amp.
Now all I have to do is order the car!

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