The truth about Electrify America's progress and Traveling with the Mach E

[Billyk24]

Can't see any Gray locations no matter how blown up the map is.

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[ChasingCoral]

Can't see any Gray locations no matter how blown up the map is.

That's very odd. When I just opened https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger
Even without magnification, the map on the home page (below) has lots of very visible black, existing stations and a fair number of gray, planned stations.

Zooming in on those two obvious ones in New Mexico, it shows them to be in Tucumcari and Santa Rosa.

I wonder if something different is happening on your computer?

 

[dbsb3233]

Whenever something doesn't seem right when displaying a webpage, first thing I do is try to open the link in a different browser (Firefox, Chrome, IE, etc).

 

[timbop]

That's very odd. When I just opened https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger
Even without magnification, the map on the home page (below) has lots of very visible black, existing stations and a fair number of gray, planned stations.


Zooming in on those two obvious ones in New Mexico, it shows them to be in Tucumcari and Santa Rosa.

I wonder if something different is happening on your computer?

The thing is, if you select only "future" sites there aren't as may as you would expect if they were showing all of those planned for the next phase. I know from reading their documents that New Jersey is supposed to be getting more in this phase (NJ turnpike that runs NE-SW, garden state parkway that runs N-S near the coast, and AC expressway that connect Philly to Atlantic City. None of those are on this map (I deselected existing stations):

And the larger map of the US does not have nearly as many stations as I know they are planning:

 

[timbop]

Can't see any Gray locations no matter how blown up the map is.

Make sure you enable showing the planned sites. Click on the filter button that looks like a sideways equalizer in the upper left, and make sure that the "coming soon" link is checked with all the charger types:

 

[dbsb3233]

Maybe it's the difference between "planned" and "locked in"? Just a guess. I assume they're planning for a lot more in a lot of corridors, but don't have exact locations contracted for yet.

I was a little surprised when the Green River UT dot popped up in the last couple of months showing an exact address.

 

[timbop]

Maybe it's the difference between "planned" and "locked in"? Just a guess. I assume they're planning for a lot more in a lot of corridors, but don't have exact locations contracted for yet.

I was a little surprised when the Green River UT dot popped up in the last couple of months showing an exact address.

yes, that does make sense. I guess they can't put a dot on the map with a rough area as opposed to an actual address. It would be nice if there was at least a text list of "planned but unselected site". I know for a fact that Tesla already contracted with the state to not only put in more superchargers at specific rest stops along those areas but to also put in the infrastructure (I assume power lines and transformers) for someone else to install CCS chargers.

 

[ClaudeMach-E]

I’ll definitely use one of the other route planners. It was just surprising to see such a large difference.

Also the Mach-E will have it's own trip planner included with the Nav system.

 

[dbsb3233]

Also the Mach-E will have it's own trip planner included with the Nav system.

Hopefully it adjusts range and power usage based on the speed limits of the route too, not just the distance. There's a big difference in power drain between getting to the next station 200 miles away at 50 MPH than there is at 75 MPH.

Might only use up 53 kWh to get there at 50 MPH, but 68 kWh to do it at 75 MPH.

 

[pbojanoski]

Hopefully it adjusts range and power usage based on the speed limits of the route too, not just the distance. There's a big difference in power drain between getting to the next station 200 miles away at 50 MPH than there is at 75 MPH.

Might only use up 53 kWh to get there at 50 MPH, but 68 kWh to do it at 75 MPH.

In that case, it sounds like a good reason to get off the highway and see the real world!

 

[dbsb3233]

In that case, it sounds like a good reason to get off the highway and see the real world!

But we get to see more of it in the same amount of time at 75 MPH. ?

 

[Billyk24]

Make sure you enable showing the planned sites. Click on the filter button that looks like a sideways equalizer in the upper left, and make sure that the "coming soon" link is checked with all the charger types:

Thanks for the tip, unclicking the "site is live" allowed the "future" sites to show clearly. Unfortunately, Michigan, the UP of Michigan, Minnesota, central and northern Wisconsin, the Dakotas, much of Wyoming and Montana lack CCS fast charging sites and it is unknown if EA will install in these areas.. For example, Green Bay Wisconsin (150 miles from my retirement home) lacks any fast DC charging despite having a population of nearly 1110,000 with millions of visitors and travelers each year as two major 4 lane interstate highways converge thru the city. The state of Wisconsin is sitting on nearly 10 million dollars in fast charging sites via the VW emission scandal but can't determine where or when to install such sites!

 

[timbop]

Unfortunately, Michigan, the UP of Michigan, Minnesota, central and northern Wisconsin, the Dakotas, much of Wyoming and Montana lack CCS fast charging sites and it is unknown if EA will install in these areas.

From the EA phase 2 document lytmcq posted, Wisconsin and North Dakota submitted ZERO proposals for EA phase 2 sites. Montana, Wyoming, and SD had 1 apiece:

I did not see any specifics in that document about phase 2 sites selected, however.

 

[dbsb3233]

From the EA phase 2 document lytmcq posted, Wisconsin and North Dakota submitted ZERO proposals for EA phase 2 sites. Montana, Wyoming, and SD had 1 apiece:

I did not see any specifics in that document about phase 2 sites selected, however.

At first I was going to say "Why does a charging company need a proposal from a local entity in order to open a station?". But then I looked at that further and it appears to simply be a count of "submissions", which sounds like it could be as simple as a comment posted from an individual on their website (prior to Oct-2018). Not exactly a thorough way to plan a national network, although I trust it was only one small piece of the data used to help identify which corridors to prioritize early.