Update on Mach-E launch progress from engineering friends in Mexico

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The lucky winner was a person from this forum. Somehow though they were not happy with the color or something they wanted grabber blue.

But then they decided they were fine with the beautiful, amazing awesomeness of the red.

But a sudden freakout, triggered by some start button thing caused the deal to fall through.

Any of you guys know anything about it?

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sorry just for fun lol ? ;) ?
Won't they be surprised since they haven't been on the forums for a few days.
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Sorry, most are from experts on the dutch tweakers.net forum (in Dutch and very large so not easy to find)

Engineering explained ,Tesla Bjorn from you tube.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/ev-lithium-ion-battery-life-tips-tricks-advice/

6 Ways To Extend EV Battery Life

  1. Minimize exposure to high temperatures, in storage and use—Park your EV in the shade whenever possible or plug in so that the battery's thermal management system can function using grid power.
  2. Minimize exposure to low temperatures—Here again, the danger is mostly parking unplugged in extreme low temperatures. If you can plug in, the battery's thermal management system can keep the battery comfy. Some EVs automatically run the thermal management system even unplugged, until capacity drops to 15 percent, after which things get ugly.
  3. Minimize time spent at 100 percent state of charge—Try to resist the urge to plug in all night every night. If your daily travels consume 30 percent of the battery, using a middle-30-percent (like from 70 to 40 percent) is better for the battery than always using the top 30 percent. Smart chargers will eventually integrate with your calendar to anticipate daily driving needs and tailor charging to suit.
  4. Minimize time spent at 0 percent state of charge—Battery management systems typically shut an EV off well before reaching 0 percent. The bigger danger is leaving a vehicle unplugged for so long that it self-discharges to zero and stays there for a prolonged period.
  5. Avoid using fast charging—Automakers know that one of the keys to mass EV adoption is the ability to charge as quickly as filling a gas tank, so they're timid about warning against high-voltage DC charging. And indeed it's fine for recharging during infrequent long trips—or for when a surprise appointment depletes your strategic 70-percent overnight charge. Don't make it a habit.
  6. Avoid discharging more quickly than is needed—It's tough to resist those Ludicrous Tesla launches, and they're relatively harmless when enjoyed occasionally when demoing your car to a prospective EV convert. Just know that each one hastens the ultimate demise of your vehicle's battery by some amount.

Some tips for operating your EVs:
  • Avoid keeping your car sitting with a full or empty charge. Ideally, keep your SOC between 20–80% particularly when leaving it for longer periods, and only charge it fully for long distance trips.
  • Minimize fast charging (DCFC). Some high-use duty cycles will need a faster charge, but if your vehicle sits overnight, level 2 should be sufficient for the majority of your charging needs.
  • Climate is out of an operator’s control, but do what you can to avoid extreme hot temperatures, such as choosing shade when parked on hot days.
  • High-use is not a concern, so fleets shouldn’t hesitate to put them to work. An EV isn’t useful sitting idle in the fleet yard, and putting on more miles per vehicle is overall a better fleet management practice.
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352152X19314227?dgcid=author

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Looks like Ford agrees to stay between 20-80% and to avoid parking long-term with it full.

I'll revise my earlier statement to say that I hope they charge mine to 80% in Cuautitlan before shipping.
 

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$2,500 in suburban Philadelphia! Sweet.
 

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Yep, that's the way they all work --- resistance electric heaters take over at colder temps --- not much heat energy in sub 30F air to pump into the vehicle.

I've got a couple of Nissan Leafs with heat pumps and they work pretty well down to that temp.
Whether they are worth the extra cost and complexity for that relatively narrow temp range they are designed for is up for debate.

Personally, I think pre-heating the vehicle before departure / heat seaters on / steering wheel heater on and a warm jacket are a better choice.
I think the worth is not yet totally understood but should not hurt, however, that is not a cost/benefit analysis. Tesla implemented one for the first time in the Y; for progress or by user pressure? As you say they are only good in a certain temperature range, have no idea if they are getting better, but most likely will not function well in the temps I need the range (-20 oC -4 oF). I presume they will be designed such that they can be retrofitted into the other MME unless it is a complete redesign. Have no idea really why that got mention? Want to get them going tell them it will be faster; the GT does not scream all I am interested in is range. For me with an order it is like oh ya.
thanks I live in north texas so I have heat to spare.
Ship some up here we can use it.
Agree with the first sentence. Not as sure about the last though. There's 7 full weeks from now until Nov 23. Not sure what the pace of production is yet, but I would hope they could get virtually all the demos and NA FEs in, plus start on some others. (Short of some big hitch derailing progress.)

"Guaranteed" is a strong word though. Maybe not every single one, but I guess it just depends on how soon they get production in gear. Hopefully we'll get a per-day or per-week pace count this week.
Without knowing the rate of production we can not say much. We can say now the first costume car made was red.
 
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with the statement that I don't believe the listed incentives are meaningful right now because again too far out, I am also showing the $2,500 off X-plan in my part of Ohio:
Ford Mustang Mach-E Update on Mach-E launch progress from engineering friends in Mexico 1601990747899

for some reason, probably just not paying attention, I thought the delta from FE to GT was a lot larger. If it wasn't for the timing, I'd probably go GT. But I am counting the seconds at this point until I get the car - I don't think I have it in me to wait for the GT.

That Select price feels insanely low now given what a lot of other new cars cost in 2020. It's lower than my well-optioned Fusion's MSRP (*) was when I bought it seven years ago, which might say more about the MSRP on that car than this one, but anyway...

(*) I paid nowhere near that!
 

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That Select price feels insanely low now given what a lot of other new cars cost in 2020. It's lower than my well-optioned Fusion's MSRP (*) was when I bought it seven years ago, which might say more about the MSRP on that car than this one, but anyway...

(*) I paid nowhere near that!
Especially when you knock another $7500 Federal and perhaps additional state EV tax incentives.
 

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with the statement that I don't believe the listed incentives are meaningful right now because again too far out, I am also showing the $2,500 off X-plan in my part of Ohio:
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for some reason, probably just not paying attention, I thought the delta from FE to GT was a lot larger. If it wasn't for the timing, I'd probably go GT. But I am counting the seconds at this point until I get the car - I don't think I have it in me to wait for the GT.

That Select price feels insanely low now given what a lot of other new cars cost in 2020. It's lower than my well-optioned Fusion's MSRP (*) was when I bought it seven years ago, which might say more about the MSRP on that car than this one, but anyway...

(*) I paid nowhere near that!
True but keep in mind we don’t yet know the true MSRP for a GT if you want all the options on the Premium. For example, how much will the glass roof add to the $60,500?
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