Video claims 379 miles! 9:30 timestamp

[StephanHR]

I would like to have the EPA standard in Europe because it is simply more realistic and better represents the range. After all, WLTP is better than the predecessor NEFZ. That was a real bummer, typically European; wide open for fraud.

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[mr_raider]

HEre's your WLTP cycle

 

[Regularmache]

Shhh, your not supposed to know that.

 

[dbsb3233]

Still a VERY BOLD Claim. No matter the governing body.

It is, as are all WLTP range numbers. They're basically hypermiling figures in perfect conditions. And even then they're sometimes stretching it.

 

[dbsb3233]

I would like to have the EPA standard in Europe because it is simply more realistic and better represents the range. After all, WLTP is better than the predecessor NEFZ. That was a real bummer, typically European; wide open for fraud.

And EPA is usually a big exaggeration too, just not as much.

They really ALL need to be thrown out for BEVs and be replaced with realistic high-speed highway range criteria (which is where range usually really matters).

 

[dbsb3233]

HEre's your WLTP cycle

Looks like an average of about 40 (or 25 MPH). Great if you're driving a garbage truck.

 

[silverelan]

Norway's equivalent of AAA, called the NAF, is doing a winter range test of EVs. Included in the field is both a AWD ER and SR RWD. It'll be interesting to see how the MME compares to the competition.

Nevermind. Test has been cancelled due to Norway going into lockdown to try and control the UK variant B117.

https://www.thelocal.no/20210123/norway-imposes-tough-lockdown-after-outbreak

 

[mr_raider]

Looks like an average of about 40 (or 25 MPH). Great if you're driving a garbage truck.

That's close to the average speed of my daily commute. It more of an urban cycle.

 

[Raymondjram]

The numbers for 2020 will be better because most employees stayed home, and few families went shopping or dining, all due to the Corona virus lockdown.

 

[dbsb3233]

That's close to the average speed of my daily commute. It more of an urban cycle.

Yep. It's just that for most people, range is a virtual non-issue for urban distances. (Although there are some exceptions, like say, real estate agents.)

 

[mr_raider]

Yep. It's just that for most people, range is a virtual non-issue for urban distances. (Although there are some exceptions, like say, real estate agents.)

Guess I can get side job delivering pizza.

 

[GoGoGadgetMachE]

Guess I can get side job delivering pizza.

"Mach-E in 30 months or it's free"

 

[ajmartineau]

Norway's equivalent of AAA, called the NAF, is doing a winter range test of EVs. Included in the field is both a AWD ER and SR RWD. It'll be interesting to see how the MME compares to the competition.

Bjorn posted that that it was canceled. He was supposed to drive a Leaf during it but had promised to check out the MME. I’m bummed.

 

[PeeCee]

So I've seen a bunch of people ask what's up with EPA and WLTP (and I was asking myself too), why such a big difference. Found a good reason why the mileage is different.

Basically in the US, it's considered more often that people will drive their cars on highways with an average of 70 MPH. While in Europe, people are mostly condensed in small streets where they stop and go and their car won't be cruising for many miles at 70 MPH. So on average, the car's battery is not used as much and therefore provides greater range - so EPA will say 300 miles based on a constant 70 MPH dirving and WLTP will say 370 miles based on stop and go with a maximum speed of say 40 - 50 MPH.

Most of the people who made videos up till now have always gone on highways (such as The Smoking Tire and TFL) and they reach the EPA numbers. It would be interesting to have them drive in a downtown environment for 6 hours and see how many miles they reach by never bringing the vehicle above say, 50mph.

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