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ID3 is rear wheel drive. I have driven one and the ride is very good, but the interior is very cheap looking.
As cheap as a M3?
 
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Out of Spec did a Q&A video after a media drive in the ID.4 recently in Detroit.


There is also some Mach-E news in the video. He mentions media drives will be happening soon with initial reviews coming in mid-December.
I was so hoping that he'd be able able to talk about the Mach-e sooner. Oh well.

He had some interesting comments about the US version of the ID.4 not getting a heat pump. He doesn't think it's a big deal.
 

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Yes....even less attractive, smal touchscreen and cheap seats. I AM a long time VW fan but this is sub standard and will not be my next car. That will be a Mach-E:p
Isn't the ID3 a pretty inexpensive car for an all electric?
 

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Isn't the ID3 a pretty inexpensive car for an all electric?
In the Netherlands a ID3 full options is almost more expensive than a MME SR RWD with TP Plus.......................the ID3 is only slightly less than a ID4 first edition
 

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It's RWD. No FWD in an ID.3 or ID.4. Take a look at Kyle's video to see what he says about FWD vs RWD in electrics.
 

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You have to rethink the paradigm when you are talking about a BEV vs. an ICE car and FWD. There is no engine over the front wheels in a BEV, and the weight is more evenly distributed with a skateboard design. Many podcasts I have watched or listened to say that FWD on a BEV is a big mistake due to the torque and oversteer of the electric motors. A RWD BEV may be just as good in the snow as a FWD ICE vehicle. But the ideal version for us in the North is probably AWD.
 

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LYTMCQ said:
The ID3 is also FWD in base version which makes it good car for winter vs. AWD.

You have to rethink the paradigm when you are talking about a BEV vs. an ICE car and FWD.
+1

Besides, AWD is generally superior to FWD in winter, EV or otherwise.
 
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In the Netherlands a ID3 full options is almost more expensive than a MME SR RWD with TP Plus.......................the ID3 is only slightly less than a ID4 first edition
It seems like you're comparing a fully loaded ID3 to basic versions of other cars.

Looking at the three countries covered on EV database.org, The ID4 averages about 60% more expensive than the ID3, and the Mach E short range rear wheel drive averages about 85% more expensive.

For the ID4, I am using the first edition because that's the only one listed. So, it's not apples to apples, but the ID3 is a much less expensive car than either of those.
 

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It seems like you're comparing a fully loaded ID3 to basic versions of other cars.

Looking at the three countries covered on EV database.org, The ID4 averages about 60% more expensive than the ID3, and the Mach E short range rear wheel drive averages about 85% more expensive.

For the ID4, I am using the first edition because that's the only one listed. So, it's not apples to apples, but the ID3 is a much less expensive car than either of those.
I have had a reservation for a ID3, with a 58 kW battery and full options it is more than 50000 euro, the new ID4 with a 77 kW battery and full options is 57000 euro, what am i missing? I do have quotes for them and if i was still in the market for a VW it would be the ID4. But instead i am going for a MME with compensation for not making the 2020 deadline and wil pay near 52000 euro.

So not only the best deal, also the best looking car👍
 

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I have had a reservation for a ID3, with a 58 kW battery and full options it is more than 50000 euro, the new ID4 with a 77 kW battery and full options is 57000 euro, what am i missing? I do have quotes for them and if i was still in the market for a VW it would be the ID4. But instead i am going for a MME with compensation for not making the 2020 deadline and wil pay near 52000 euro.

So not only the best deal, also the best looking car👍
Was the car driven in the review above fully loaded? Were the interior materials the same as what you have an order for?
 

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The ID series are here very similar, main difference between trim versions are glass roof, seats, wheels and tech options. I don't know the EU differences but here in the Netherlands it is a bit silly when you buy a full options ID3, you are way better off with an ID4.
 



 









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