VW ID.4 Unveiled Today

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The Kona EV slides around in slush or snow unless you have good winter tires. Then it is AMAZING!!
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Well....pushed back until March, 2021.

Volkswagen's Electric ID.4 Is Already Delayed For America

Not surprising considering all the software issues they are currently having with the ID.3.
Lol - story of my EV orders - still have ID4 FE reservation reserved in first few minutes - was going to be serious consideration if Mach E got delayed - but with my MachDrop and regular Premium orders now both built before March - I better cancel my reservation. Mach E is way cooler anyway
 

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Volkswagen ID.4 Release Date
Volkswagen will offer a limited quantity of the ID.4 in North America for delivery by December 2020 to the first group of online reservation holders. Those without a reservation will be able to buy an ID.4 as supply becomes available throughout 2021.

Global demand for the ID.4 is expected to be strong and quantities will be scarce until Volkswagen begins operating a second factory for the ID.4 in Chattanooga, Tennessee. The first two model years of Volkswagen ID.4 will be built at Volkswagen’s factory in Zwickau, Germany. In fact, Volkswagen has already started production in Germany to build inventory before the official release.

How many 100, 200, 2,000? why not say the amount that will make it. You know why because there are always delays my friend.
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Lol - story of my EV orders - still have ID4 FE reservation reserved in first few minutes - was going to be serious consideration if Mach E got delayed - but with my MachDrop and regular Premium orders now both built before March - I better cancel my reservation. Mach E is way cooler anyway
I'm holding on for now. I'll wait to see what Alex and Kyle think of the Mach-e and then decide. Kyles's enthusiasm for the ID.4 keeps me interested. I like a lot of things about the Mach-e, but overall I still like the ID.4 better.
 


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At $39,995 or whatever it is, the VW ID4 RWD is a great value. If the AWD version is anything like the MME's efficiency, it'll have a range of just 225mi or so. 3 years of EA charging is a nice perk.

seems like the seating position in the ID4 is higher than the MME.
 

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At $39,995 or whatever it is, the VW ID4 RWD is a great value. If the AWD version is anything like the MME's efficiency, it'll have a range of just 225mi or so. 3 years of EA charging is a nice perk.

seems like the seating position in the ID4 is higher than the MME.
ID4 is too slow. Mach E extended battery and and model Y long range hit the sweet spot of range and performance.
 

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ID4 is too slow. Mach E extended battery and and model Y long range hit the sweet spot of range and performance.
For sure, but for someone like me who puts no value in sub 5-second zero to 60 times, the ID.4 has a lot to offer.
 

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I don't know if this has been reported yet, but ID.4 EPA results are out. They hit range target, efficiency similar to Mach-e.

Ford Mustang Mach-E VW ID.4 Unveiled Today Screen Shot 2020-11-25 at 6.32.48 AM
The RWD version of ID4 is a compelling value at 250 mile range. Probably is closer to appealing to a larger market than the Mach E would. Not everyone wants performance. Lower price, decent range would be appealing.
 

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The RWD version of ID4 is a compelling value at 250 mile range. Probably is closer to appealing to a larger market than the Mach E would. Not everyone wants performance. Lower price, decent range would be appealing.
compared to the mache select and the plan nothing added ID4 at 39,999. Mache after x-plan and 1,0000 incentives come in at 41,400
The difference is ID4 at that price point has EPA estimate range of 20 miles more.

The top of the line ID4 price is 50,000 while you can get premium mache for 50,300. same price but 300 miles of range for the mache.
 

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The RWD version of ID4 is a compelling value at 250 mile range. Probably is closer to appealing to a larger market than the Mach E would. Not everyone wants performance. Lower price, decent range would be appealing.
compared to the mache select and the plan nothing added ID4 at 39,999. Mache after x-plan and 1,0000 incentives come in at 41,400
The difference is ID4 at that price point has EPA estimate range of 20 miles more.

The top of the line ID4 price is 50,000 while you can get premium mache for 50,300. same price but 300 miles of range for the mache.

Although the ID4 is not for me, another thing that it has going for it are competitive leases:


Ford Mustang Mach-E VW ID.4 Unveiled Today Screenshot (37)
 

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Although the ID4 is not for me, another thing that it has going for it are competitive leases:


Ford Mustang Mach-E VW ID.4 Unveiled Today Screenshot (37)
Those are some really good numbers
 

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The RWD version of ID4 is a compelling value at 250 mile range. Probably is closer to appealing to a larger market than the Mach E would. Not everyone wants performance. Lower price, decent range would be appealing.
There's certainly room for both. But the 230 mile base MME still probably compares well at $42,895. Just $3000 more than the ID4 with similar range. Not sure how all the rest of the features compare on the base models, but it's probably close enough that the MME still matches up well.

On range, I think we're gonna see 2 types of buyers -- those that plan to use it on road trips and will hold out for a 300+ mile BEV, and those that say "I'll just make it the home-base vehicle, where 200 is plenty".
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