What tires are cars arriving with

[SebastienMachE]

The 225/55 R19 version would probably have slightly less range loss due to being more narrow so less wind resistance.

You mean « more » range, as they are narrower?

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[highland58]

You mean « more » range, as they are narrower?

Hi, maybe I could have worded it better, slightly less range loss - less range loss than the wider 235/55 - so the better tire in the same size vs the better tire in a wider size.

In other words the 235 CC2 would have more loss than a 225 CC2, which would have more loss than the 225 Primacy. If I was doing a lot of road trips that might be more of an issue, but the MME will have way more range than the Clarity (in EV mode). I almost always replace stock tires on new cars, performance and braking distance are a high priority to me. YMMV (literally)
The CrossClimate2s look way nicer on top of that.

 

[malba2366]

The 225/55 R19 version would probably have slightly less range loss due to being more narrow so less wind resistance.

Those have a lower load rating. May not be a good idea considering the car is pretty heavy.


235 50 19 may be a better option - closer to the original diameter so speedometer will be less off.


If the wheel is 7 inches thickness, then a different wheel is probably a good idea and then go to a 245 or 255 tire.

 

[silverelan]

Hi, maybe I could have worded it better, slightly less range loss - less range loss than the wider 235/55 - so the better tire in the same size vs the better tire in a wider size.

In other words the 235 CC2 would have more loss than a 225 CC2, which would have more loss than the 225 Primacy. If I was doing a lot of road trips that might be more of an issue, but the MME will have way more range than the Clarity (in EV mode). I almost always replace stock tires on new cars, performance and braking distance are a high priority to me. YMMV (literally)
The CrossClimate2s look way nicer on top of that.

If you go this route, can you let me know where you took your MME and the deal you got? Thanks!

 

[highland58]

Those have a lower load rating. May not be a good idea considering the car is pretty heavy.

Yes, I see the 225 crossclimate2 is substantially lower, thank you for pointing that out. I feel good about the 235s at 2039 lbs.

Michelin Primacy A/S 225/55R19 103H EXTRA LOAD
1929 lbs
The 225/55R19 CC2s 99H
1709 lbs
CROSSCLIMATE2 - SIZE: 235/55R19 105H XL
2039 lbs

 

[Joetz]

Ebay is flooded with people trying to sell these awful michelin primacy tires. Some people just took them off after they drove off the showroom floor. And they are absolutely WORTHLESS used. I guess I have no choice but to wear them out

 

[agoldman]

I'm in a hurry for mine to wear so I can replace them with wider ones.

 

[j w griffin]

It will reduce range as these are not low rolling resistance. If you have mostly dryer warmer conditions in your area, this might not be a good idea. Typically this type of change would reduce the range by 10% or possibly more. That is a trade off that I am willing to take for better handling and a longer lasting tire. We have wet roads often in western washington, these are highly rated for those conditions. I put other tires on my Clarity also.

Which tires are the lowest rolling resistance tires for use in South Texas, to maximize range?

 

[highland58]

Which tires are the lowest rolling resistance tires for use in South Texas, to maximize range?

Some info here - be aware that better efficiency, and better handing and stopping are at odds with each other. Low rolling resistance does not make for best handling and vice versa.
Rolling Resistance Rating at Tire Rack

 

[AzCoronaDog]

Let me make all of you feel a little better about tires for the MME...

My 911 gets about 15k miles out of a set of rear tires that cost almost $400 each, plus nearly $100 each for certificates to cover road hazards. So out the door for about $1,200 after mounting, balance, tax and fees. The fronts go longer, nearly 25k miles, and are not quite as expensive. Oh, and they attract nails like a magnet!
They are 'all weather' here in the Phoenix area, except for the 2 days a year it rains...

 

[macchiaz-o]

Let me make all of you feel a little better about tires for the MME...

My 911 gets about 15k miles out of a set of rear tires that cost almost $400 each, plus nearly $100 each for certificates to cover road hazards. So out the door for about $1,200 after mounting, balance, tax and fees. The fronts go longer, nearly 25k miles, and are not quite as expensive. Oh, and they attract nails like a magnet!
They are 'all weather' here in the Phoenix area, except for the 2 days a year it rains...

Yikes, that's a lot. What happens on the two days of rain?

I replaced the stock tires with the same make/model on my Fiesta. They were fuel efficient but not great handling during strong sidewinds (it's a lightweight car). In the rain they weren't particularly reassuring but also nothing I worried much about. I'm from Florida so I'm well aware of increasing stopping distance during rain.

BTW Fiesta tires: Hankook Optimo H426, all four wheels totalled $384.39 out the door at Discount Tire (did not purchase replacement certs).

 

[BMT1071]

Yikes, that's a lot. What happens on the two days of rain?

I replaced the stock tires with the same make/model on my Fiesta. They were fuel efficient but not great handling during strong sidewinds (it's a lightweight car). In the rain they weren't particularly reassuring but also nothing I worried much about. I'm from Florida so I'm well aware of increasing stopping distance during rain.

BTW Fiesta tires: Hankook Optimo H426, all four wheels totalled $384.39 out the door at Discount Tire (did not purchase replacement certs).

Well the 911 is probably 6 times the cost of the Fiesta, so the tire price makes sense. ??

 

[macchiaz-o]

Well the 911 is probably 6 times the cost of the Fiesta, so the tire price makes sense. ??

Yeah but TIRES?!! I mean sure, if I buy tires at a dealership, I expect to pay more. Especially if it's a Porsche dealership... Otherwise? Yikes.

 

[AzCoronaDog]

Yikes, that's a lot. What happens on the two days of rain?

I replaced the stock tires with the same make/model on my Fiesta. They were fuel efficient but not great handling during strong sidewinds (it's a lightweight car). In the rain they weren't particularly reassuring but also nothing I worried much about. I'm from Florida so I'm well aware of increasing stopping distance during rain.

BTW Fiesta tires: Hankook Optimo H426, all four wheels totalled $384.39 out the door at Discount Tire (did not purchase replacement certs).

Actually, the Pirelli P-Zero's on the 911 handle the rain better than I would have thought. They have large straight grooves, so they channel water fairly well. Once they do get to hydroplane level, the tires agressively try to kill you while the traction control systems very agressively try to keep you from breaking the car. I don't think the German engineers care if you die, but they don't want you to ruin their fine work! LOL

 

[Woeo]

I had a hair raising experience trying to stop on these greasy primacy tires. Sad sad excuse for a tire. The chassis is brilliant but the tires have zero grip and are borderline dangerous

Alex on Autos measured the stopping distance from 60mph at 110 ft.
Borderline dangerous.

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