What would make you cancel your Mach-E reservation and buy something else?

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As much as I don't really care for the Tesla Model Y's looks or its center screen setup, I have to admit that their charging network and speed are far superior to what the Mustang Mach-E can offer. It's really just the range parity between the Mach-E AWD ER and the Model Y Dual Motor that has me sticking with Ford. However, if Tesla comes out with a Model Y Dual Motor with say 350 miles or more range, I'm gonna have to cancel.

We'll see what the VW ID.4 has to offer.
 

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As much as I don't really care for the Tesla Model Y's looks or its center screen setup, I have to admit that their charging network and speed are far superior to what the Mustang Mach-E can offer. It's really just the range parity between the Mach-E AWD ER and the Model Y Dual Motor that has me sticking with Ford. However, if Tesla comes out with a Model Y Dual Motor with say 350 miles or more range, I'm gonna have to cancel.

We'll see what the VW ID.4 has to offer.
They are close. What made me reserve a Mach-E is the Ford brand (better quality, and dealer network) and the SR rear drive can get an upgraded sound system and other equipment such as an actual gauge cluster that you can’t get in the base Model Y or Model 3. Plus it will basically ge the same price as the base Model Y after the tax credit.

ordered Premuim SR rear wheel drive, Infinite Blue, light grey interior.
 

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Pretty much anything else comparable besides a model Y will mean waiting for a 2022 model year or longer, or spending over $70k (and a fe mach e with 7500 tax credit is already over than I would like to spend at over 50k, so forget $70+k). Would have to be something with similar or better specs (probably need AWD, more cargo space, 0-60 under 6 seconds, 350+ range all under $50k) to wait an extra year for vaporware.

More likely would cancel if I can't get a test drive first, or it's not comfortable for my wife or myself. I test drove a mustang ~7 years ago, and just wasn't comfortable, the visibility was poor (seemed like a lot of blind spots, front window too short, vehicle too low, etc).
 

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As much as I don't really care for the Tesla Model Y's looks or its center screen setup, I have to admit that their charging network and speed are far superior to what the Mustang Mach-E can offer. It's really just the range parity between the Mach-E AWD ER and the Model Y Dual Motor that has me sticking with Ford. However, if Tesla comes out with a Model Y Dual Motor with say 350 miles or more range, I'm gonna have to cancel.

We'll see what the VW ID.4 has to offer.
For me the looks of a car can be a deal breaker... After the Model S Tesla didn't create any car that appealed to me, and the Model Y will be no exception. All other (crossover) SUV's are either to boring (Audi E-tron) or to expensive to consider. So, I expect to stick to the pony...
 

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For me the looks of a car can be a deal breaker... After the Model S Tesla didn't create any car that appealed to me, and the Model Y will be no exception. All other (crossover) SUV's are either to boring (Audi E-tron) or to expensive to consider. So, I expect to stick to the pony...
I pretty much agree with all previous comments. I love the look. I think the price to value proposition with the Mach e is great. There are areas that I think are weaker (super charging network and several years of improvement) than the standard bearer Tesla, but they are not deal breakers. Ford will most certainly have learn from past Tesla flaws and will certain improve from its own flaws.

I won't let bad dealers dissuade me. I will just go to another. That said, I think the only thing that may sway my decision is if the approximate 270 mile range in the First Edition turns out to be 200 EPA miles. That would cause a credibility issue in my mind. I suspect Ford was far more conservative in their spec estimates and i REALLY hope so.
 

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That said, I think the only thing that may sway my decision is if the approximate 270 mile range in the First Edition turns out to be 200 EPA miles. That would cause a credibility issue in my mind. I suspect Ford was far more conservative in their spec estimates and i REALLY hope so.
If the 270miles (430km) range is realistic than I'm happy also, a 200miles (320km) range will make me to reconsider my choice and drive a few more years diesel....
 

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Of everything coming out, the Mach-E has the best looks, IMO. I do not like the interior of the 3/Y at all. There are a lot things going for the Y, but the current single screen, wood trim interior looks really cheap. I'm waiting to see more info on the ID.4 and on the XC40 Recharge. I love the look of the Volvo but they are not giving info and the range looks like it will be a killer. VW or Volvo could really surprise me and those would be my most likely cancel options right now.
 

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When it was announced that the Mach-E was eligible for A-Plan pricing I was locked in! No turning back.
 

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New Jersey might be instituting a $5,000 rebate on EV's with over 200 mile range and an MSRP of $55,000 or lower. The second eliminates all but the compliance cars, Tesla Model 3 and rear wheel drive Mach-Es. I would think most NJites would want all wheel drive which kicks the models up to $60K. I wrote my reps saying I think the $55,000 is too low. But, I think they don't want to reward the wealthy buying Taycans with State money. If I could get the Volvo recharge for less than $55K, and get the Fed & State rebate, that would be what I would get.
 

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i had a reservation on the volvo x40 recharge but canceled it....the range just seemed too low for the occasional LA to SF road trip we do, and compared to the competition.

if i'm honest with myself about how that only happens 3-4x/year and if i'm willing to charge often or just drive our ICE car, then the volvo undoubtedly has the nicer interior (between mach-e and Y) and would be more than fine as an in-town car.

it has apple carplay too although not sure it's as competitive with other tech as tesla or even ford. biggest disappointment was the range. if they could offer an ER version with 280-300 mile range and be in the same price ball park, we'd have a contender
 

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I agree. Volve website says 200+, so you are right, surprisingly short range for a 78 kWh battery. But, would be a really nice car otherwise.
 

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So, let's look at the competition. You have Model Y, Volvo XC40 Recharge, and Polestar 2 coming out in 2020.

So, what would it take for me to switch? If the range on the Mach E was an over estimate, and the the ER AWD range was more like 250, then I might have to wait till the Polestar 2 is available in my area. Could that be near the end of 2020? Or, if, combined with the Mach E's overestimate, if the XC40 Recharge's range is more like 260 EPA, rather than the 250 WLTP rumored now, that might make me switch as well.

Or, if Telsa delivers a battery breakthrough and the Model Y is delivered with near 400 mile range, even though I don't like the interior or exterior, I might have to bite.
 

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New Jersey might be instituting a $5,000 rebate on EV's with over 200 mile range and an MSRP of $55,000 or lower. The second eliminates all but the compliance cars, Tesla Model 3 and rear wheel drive Mach-Es. I would think most NJites would want all wheel drive which kicks the models up to $60K. I wrote my reps saying I think the $55,000 is too low. But, I think they don't want to reward the wealthy buying Taycans with State money. If I could get the Volvo recharge for less than $55K, and get the Fed & State rebate, that would be what I would get.
WOAH! What's your source on this, and more importantly what are the timelines for delivery and likelihood of passage? Will the "no sales tax" continue also?
 

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WOAH! What's your source on this, and more importantly what are the timelines for delivery and likelihood of passage? Will the "no sales tax" continue also?
Saw it in a couple of locations. Has not been passed yet. Will only apply to sales after passage. I don't believe they are changing the sales tax exclusion. But, till finalized, I suppose all is in play. I wish they would raise or eliminate the max msrp.
 
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