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Why the Mustang Mach E is better than the Tesla Model Y

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Honestly, I feel like CarPlay and Android Auto wouldn't be necessary if OEM's infotainment software (Ford's included) wasn't hot garbage by comparison. Tesla seems to get it right in this area, but takes it too far - they've over-indexed on aesthetics at the expense of human factors. Not everything in a vehicle should be controlled by a menu tree. I would find that annoying.

I'm really disappointed by the choices of blue on the MME (I picked Infinite Blue, but I'm questioning my choice - like, every day). As someone else pointed out, Ford has some gorgeous blue color options in its palette (including Blue Candy on the EcoSport) and this is what they picked?

Finally, range on the MME misses the mark - this is Ford's first, true EV (Focus doesn't count) but the industry's in its third gen. It should have 300 miles of usable range, period. Lacking a decent charging network with DC, it is not a practical car to take on a road trip unless you enjoy the "getting there" more than the "being there."

The only reason I'm not in a Y already is that Tesla's build quality is unacceptable, and there is no such thing as local support. If I bought a brand new, $60K vehicle and the first thing I had to do after taking delivery is get someone to park a service van in my driveway to fix panel gaps, paint issues, etc., I would be seriously pissed off. Tesla's build quality is 1970s Big Three bad.
1. We don't yet know the range.

2. In Europe, ev-database.org lists the ER AWD with a longer range than the comparable Tesla.
 

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I saw my first MY in the wild yesterday driving home and heading the opposite direction from me on a non-divided road. A white MY. I try really hard to be objective, but if ever there was the look of a pure compliance car, it was that MY. It looked BORING.
 

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I saw my first MY in the wild yesterday driving home and heading the opposite direction from me on a non-divided road. A white MY. I try really hard to be objective, but if ever there was the look of a pure compliance car, it was that MY. It looked BORING.
First time I saw a red MY, it was a rear three-quarter view as it was driving through the grocery store parking lot. It looked like a red balloon. Just seriously a very inflated M3. I actually thought it was an MX at first until my eyes focused better... Quite spherical looking.

I've seen a few more since then and thought they looked good. So I think it's a matter of viewing angles.
 

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First time I saw a red MY, it was a rear three-quarter view as it was driving through the grocery store parking lot. It looked like a red balloon. Just seriously a very inflated M3. I actually thought it was an MX at first until my eyes focused better... Quite spherical looking.

I've seen a few more since then and thought they looked good. So I think it's a matter of viewing angles.
First time I saw one I thouht the same. The jolly green giant stuck a straw in a model 3 and blew on it. I actually have no problems with the S, 3, or X. They aren't my favorite but I wouldn't be ashamed to own one from a visual perspective. But that Y....
 

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First time I saw one I thouht the same. The jolly green giant stuck a straw in a model 3 and blew on it. I actually have no problems with the S, 3, or X. They aren't my favorite but I wouldn't be ashamed to own one from a visual perspective. But that Y....
Tesla can get away with that while competitive products are low volume.
 

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Time to step up Ford and go head to head with Tesla. Only a single mention of the Mach e in yesterdays story. Last sentence - Y will be best selling Telsa. Time for some real reviews instead of fluffy marketing talk from Ford. If you have a superior car (which we hope) let people judge you.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/new-c...&utm_content=20_September_18_Newsletter_NewDD
I think this is a pretty good description . . . like he said, come on Ford!

"The Model Y is not a pretty car. The Model 3’s pure lines, when bloated to crossover proportions, become a visual blob. “It’s like shooting a chrome egg,” noted photographer Cameron Neveu."
 

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On the other hand, automotive industry journalists are just as jaded as we are in our own chosen professions. If you look at the journalist video in the indoor ride along (located here: https://www.macheforum.com/site/thr...engineering-friends-in-mexico.1100/post-34768) at the 7:18 mark the guy talking says, "I think it's kind of attractive." And that was an improvement over what he thought prior to seeing it in person. Unleasing the journalist on this car too soon isn't necessarily a good thing.
 

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I’ve driven the X and the whY, wasn’t impressed with the whY’s looks, handling(u definitely feel the weight of the batteries unlike driving the I-Pace which handles like a cat), autopilot stopped me 15 feet in front of the car in front of me (embarrassing) in city traffic and tried to drive me off the road twice in city driving, the lowest regen mode for braking was way too strong for my tastes, the navigation didn’t even notice when I turned around, kept saying pull a U-turn, steering wheel is really tiny(I guess it makes u feel bigger?), hard plastic surfaces like where you would rest your arms and touch, and of course it’s pretty ugly for no reason I can tell (just make the nose pointy or something like the X). Hate the lack of HUD, begs for a laser HUD. It is wicked fast though not that that matters. X was cool back in the day but too expensive for moi. I’d take the I-Pace over the whY for even money.
Still waiting on my GT. Can’t decide on color, wish it was hydrogen fuel cell powered.
Don’t sleep on GM, seems they are making some waves now too with hydrogen fuel cell commitment with Nikola...

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I saw my first MY in the wild yesterday driving home and heading the opposite direction from me on a non-divided road. A white MY. I try really hard to be objective, but if ever there was the look of a pure compliance car, it was that MY. It looked BORING.
I actually thought the MY looked real sharp when I saw one a couple of weeks ago. It was blue and a real head-turner. At least from the side perspective. I think it makes you pay attention to it.
 

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I saw my first MY in the wild yesterday driving home and heading the opposite direction from me on a non-divided road. A white MY. I try really hard to be objective, but if ever there was the look of a pure compliance car, it was that MY. It looked BORING.
I can't even tell Tesla models apart when I see them on the road. They all have the same mostly-indistinguishable profile.

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For me, the Model S and Roadster (both original and new concept) are the only good looking models, the others in certain angles look very awkward.
 



 










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