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Why better then a Tesla: Mach-E's aren't cat killers

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/business/jamie-lynn-spears-tesla/index.html

New York (CNN Business) Jamie Lynn Spears called Tesla "a secret cat-killer" and told CEO Elon Musk that he owes her a couple new feline friends.

The actress, singer and sister of Britney Spears said in a since-deleted Instagram video that her cats were run over by a Tesla they never heard coming. Teslas, like other electric cars, run quieter than vehicles with gas-powered engines.

"We have now lost — I don't want to tell you how many cats — because they don't hear the Tesla (TSLA) crank and unfortunate things happen and it's really devastating and tragic for everyone involved," she said in her Instagram post, according to multiple news reports that preserved the video.

"Elon Musk, let's figure this out," she said. "You owe me a couple cats."
Spears recommended that Teslas emit noises that bother animals so they move out of the way. She suggested that this update would ensure that animals "aren't caught off guard and things don't end in a very tragic way."

As it turns out -- Teslas and other electric cars are required to do this, as of September 2020. The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration now requires electric cars to emit sounds of at least 43 decibels when they're traveling at speeds less than 18.6 miles per hour. That's about the level of noise your dishwasher makes.

"This standard will help to ensure that blind, visually impaired, and other pedestrians are able to detect and recognize nearby hybrid and electric vehicles," NHTSA said in its order.
Europe has similar requirements: As of July 2019, all new models of electric and hybrid vehicles developed and sold in the European Union must come equipped with an acoustic sound system.
Spears later walked back her initial post in another Instagram post -- which she also deleted. She said she "did not run over any cats" and Tesla is "not to be blamed," several news outlets reported. The actress also made it clear that "user error is admittedly involved."

Tesla did not immediately respond to CNN Business' request for comment.
Surely this is from The Onion...
 

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Tesla did not add pedestrian warning sound until after the law required it, even though just about everyone else had it.
This. And the requirement was/is a major annoyance to Mr. Musk who seems to find all forms of regulation, no matter how sensible, rather annoying and something to be gamed.
 
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Wonder if the Biden plan to give the 7500 tax rebate to all manufacturers including Tesla will change some minds here
 

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Wonder if the Biden plan to give the 7500 tax rebate to all manufacturers including Tesla will change some minds here
Wonder if that plan will mean Tesla prices go up by $7500?
 

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Tesla did not add pedestrian warning sound until after the law required it, even though just about everyone else had it.
Some of us were glad about that, until Boombox mode, now I'm waiting to hear back from Tesla's Retrofit Team on adding the PWS speaker to my Model Y. Once I get that, my car will play the Knight Rider theme. That'll scare them cats!
 

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Why better then a Tesla: Mach-E's aren't cat killers

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/business/jamie-lynn-spears-tesla/index.html

New York (CNN Business) Jamie Lynn Spears called Tesla "a secret cat-killer" and told CEO Elon Musk that he owes her a couple new feline friends.

The actress, singer and sister of Britney Spears said in a since-deleted Instagram video that her cats were run over by a Tesla they never heard coming. Teslas, like other electric cars, run quieter than vehicles with gas-powered engines.

"We have now lost — I don't want to tell you how many cats — because they don't hear the Tesla (TSLA) crank and unfortunate things happen and it's really devastating and tragic for everyone involved," she said in her Instagram post, according to multiple news reports that preserved the video.

"Elon Musk, let's figure this out," she said. "You owe me a couple cats."
Spears recommended that Teslas emit noises that bother animals so they move out of the way. She suggested that this update would ensure that animals "aren't caught off guard and things don't end in a very tragic way."

As it turns out -- Teslas and other electric cars are required to do this, as of September 2020. The US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration now requires electric cars to emit sounds of at least 43 decibels when they're traveling at speeds less than 18.6 miles per hour. That's about the level of noise your dishwasher makes.

"This standard will help to ensure that blind, visually impaired, and other pedestrians are able to detect and recognize nearby hybrid and electric vehicles," NHTSA said in its order.
Europe has similar requirements: As of July 2019, all new models of electric and hybrid vehicles developed and sold in the European Union must come equipped with an acoustic sound system.

Spears later walked back her initial post in another Instagram post -- which she also deleted. She said she "did not run over any cats" and Tesla is "not to be blamed," several news outlets reported. The actress also made it clear that "user error is admittedly involved."

Tesla did not immediately respond to CNN Business' request for comment.
Come on Jamie...cats can hear a mouse flinch their ears 100 yards away, but they can't hear a swirling engine or tires roaming across the pavement? Nutjob.
 

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Tesla did not add pedestrian warning sound until after the law required it, even though just about everyone else had it.
Looks like Jamie wants to add a 'cat warning' mode now.
 

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ok I'll get into the details I said I wasn't going to get in to I guess. pretty sure I've talked about this elsewhere on here.



another way to work around it is proper write-leveling in the flash controller - standard memory cards don't do this. standard SSDs (solid-state drives) on the other hand, even consumer SSDs, do, because a standard operating system setup reads and writes data all the damn time. Windows is worse than this than Linux and Unix, because of the Registry, but it's ultimately a problem for every OS that isn't configured for embedded use. The write-leveling can do tracking of flash cell state and/or do error detection to relocate writes when appropriate. To facilitate this, extra storage is set aside that isn't visible to the user of the storage that is used as the back-fill.

still another way to do it is to filter the writes, which is generally part of how you would configure a more general-purpose OS for embedded use. Windows shipped a feature literally referred to as the "Embedded Write Filter" that now ships as the Unified Write Filter (UWF) feature for this use. The idea is that you're tossing writes that don't actually matter and/or consolidating writes (e.g. if the same sector is written to multiple times, just persist the last version when you choose to commit the changes back to storage).

of course, you can also do both if necessary. And, no matter what you do, the limited write cycles will burn you in the end if you let it.

It all depends on your embedded system use case, design, anticipated lifetime, and cost/benefit analysis.



aka write-leveling. but again this isn't a "modern flash" issue - it's a "targeted use case" scenario. If you're making a consumer SD card for use in cameras, they will never see enough writes to a particular cell over the life of the card to make it matter. If you're making a consumer SSD though as I said earlier it's there - it has to be. This is generally in the drive's controller logic that sits between the actual storage and the computer storage interface (SATA, NVMe, whatever).



at this point it seems clear that they didn't know enough to know how to do the design properly for "permanent" storage. As for swapping the card in and out, we can only guess as to what the design constraints were here.
This is why in another thread where ppl were asking for certain add-ons and i said keep it simple, don't start filling the system with garbage. Embedded systems are meant to be closed systems with little manipulation and intervention. They are made this way in order to guarantee stability. As soon as you start adding functions that a system wasnt designed for, you add failure points.
Im sure many Tesla owners would give up their fart system for one that just works right about now.
 

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Tesla is hiring a remote ‘customer support specialist’ to defend Elon Musk from angry customers and trolls on social media
  • Tesla is hiring a new employee to address complaints targeted at Elon Musk
  • The job listing is for a remote, full-time 'energy customer support specialist'
  • They would resolve or escalate complaints found on social media
  • Requirements and qualifications include experience at a call center
  • Along with being a team player and the ability to think outside the box


Elon Musk is occasionally the target of disgruntled customers and trolls on social media and with Tesla reportedly scrapping its PR department last year, the firm is looking for someone to diffuse such 'attacks' against the CEO.
A job posting on Tesla's websites is for hiring a remote, full-time 'energy customer support specialist.'
'Tesla Energy Support Specialists handle a variety of customer issues while delivering on world class customer service,' the listing reads.


'The role of a specialist is to resolve or escalate complaints through appropriate channels and address social media escalations directed at the CEO with critical thinking.'
Requirements and qualifications include experience at a call center, ability to think outside the box and a team player attitude, but a salary range for the position is now shown.
Not only is Musk a frequent tweeter, but Tesla is widely known for its lack of quality control regarding its vehicles and customer service – and the billionaire sometimes gets the brunt of it.


Elon Musk is occasional the target of disgruntle customers and trolls on social media and with Tesla reportedly scrapping its PR department last year, the firm is looking for someone to diffuse such 'attacks' against the CEO. A job posting on Tesla's websites is for a remote, full-time 'energy customer support specialist
Musk has 42.6 million Twitter followers and shares at least one tweet a day regarding upcoming SpaceX launches, new Tesla technology and the occasional puzzling phrase that always gains attention.
However, the CEO has also been known as a Twitter troll when he refereed to Vernon Unsworth, a member of the mission that rescued the Thai boys' soccer team that became trapped in a cave in July 2018, as 'pedo guy.'


One Twitter user hit back at Musk saying: 'Amazing @elonmusk can run three companies when he spends so much time trolling online.'
And Musk responded: 'What, a troll, me? How dare you, sir!'
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Musk a frequent tweeter, but Tesla is widely known for its lack of quality control regarding its vehicles and customer service – and the billionaire sometimes gets the brunt of it
Having relinquished its PR department, it seems Tesla is looking to save its CEO from users who may lash at just like him.
The job's responsibilities ask the new hire 'Provide excellent customer service that is focused on the person as well as the solution' and 'Maintain and follow through on ongoing customer concerns until issue is resolved.'
Tesla is also looking for someone with at least one-year experience at a call center, has the ability to think outside the box, and 'MUST' have a team player attitude.
A salary range is not listed with the job posting, but suggests the new hire will have medical coverage and a 401K plan.
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Musk has also been known as a Twitter troll when he refereed to Vernon Unsworth, a member of the mission that rescued the Thai boys' soccer team that became trapped in a cave in July 2018, as 'pedo guy'
Although Musk is not one to shy away from a direct complaint, the new staff member could be tasked with searching the web for complaints to address.
Tesla is looking to fill a number of positions recently, as the carmaker recently opened up listings at its Berlin and Texas battery making facilities.
The firm shared video Monday with the first look of its tabless battery and Roadrunner production line and included in the post was text saying it is hiring staff in engineering, manufacturing, materials, equipment and operations to work at the planned factories.
 



 









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