Will Bluecruise 1.2 be available via OTA update?

[BMT1071]

You can override the go pedal but you have to have an MPH set for BC to engage. There is no way that I am aware of to engage BC (blue screen) without that. In traffic, I would love to be able to speed up and slow down at my own comfort level but not worry about steering. This is mainly because BC can be too jerky in traffic. I can easily see several cars ahead and anticipate better than BC.

Theoretically you could probably achieve this by setting the speed significantly lower than you plan to go and use the pedal to accelerate to the speed you choose. Functionally it would be similar to 1PD since as soon as you let off the go pedal CC will start slowing down to get to the set speed. Of course applying the brake pedal will cancel BC, so this method would take some getting used to.

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[Thor2j]

Depends on how they removed weight. Adding 400lbs of weight to the bed of a pickup truck will have significantly less impact on mileage than adding 100lbs of weight to each wheel.

Yes, the wiring(which was only talked about,never done) comes off the wheels. You are correct. I always thought they were too heavy when I took them off.

 

[ChasingCoral]

Consider: how willing would YOU be to board an airplane if the airline proudly announced that your flight would be operated by the “beta” version of the manufacturer’s autopilot software? That would make the AutoTrain or just driving down I-95 to Disney look a lot more attractive, huh?

In the Tesla model, your search of social media after boarding the plane would uncover that your plane is one of the ones in beta test and might or might not be using it on your flight.

 

[Jimrpa]

You can override the go pedal but you have to have an MPH set for BC to engage. There is no way that I am aware of to engage BC (blue screen) without that. In traffic, I would love to be able to speed up and slow down at my own comfort level but not worry about steering. This is mainly because BC can be too jerky in traffic. I can easily see several cars ahead and anticipate better than BC.

Oh, sorry, I sort of thought it was obvious that you had to set cruise control. After all, it is cruise control. You can always set it to a very low speed.

 

[Jimrpa]

LMAO... It's completely anonymous data. It's actually kind of cool how it works.
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Cool. Thanks!

 

[timbop]

an article in the auto press explaining the difference between the 22 and 23 models. The 23 weighs 70 lbs less than the 22 and that accounts for the 13 mile gain in max range.

So a 1.4% reduction in weight added 5% more range? I think that is a supposition made by someone and passed along down the chain. I would suspect that changes to the size of the upper/lower battery buffer and other software tweaks have a larger impact on the change in EPA range than 70 pounds.

Just because someone wrote something down doesn't make that statement accurate/true.

 

[generaltso]

So a 1.4% reduction in weight added 5% more range? I think that is a supposition made by someone and passed along down the chain. I would suspect that changes to the size of the upper/lower battery buffer and other software tweaks have a larger impact on the change in EPA range than 70 pounds.

Just because someone wrote something down doesn't make that statement accurate/true.

Don't waste your breath. I think he's made it clear that the fact that he read it somewhere at some point makes it more true than all the simple logic that people here keep forcing upon him.

 

[spgordon57]

So a 1.4% reduction in weight added 5% more range? I think that is a supposition made by someone and passed along down the chain. I would suspect that changes to the size of the upper/lower battery buffer and other software tweaks have a larger impact on the change in EPA range than 70 pounds.

Just because someone wrote something down doesn't make that statement accurate/true.

I agree the physics are suspect. I only claimed to have read that in the auto press months ago; not that it’s the gospel. Funny thing is, all this chatter got me to search extensively for a better explanation and I haven’t found any. Ford has been very cagey about the increased range, saying they’ve done it but never describing how. I know that they haven’t made more battery cells accessible, as they did for the ‘22 MY

 

[timbop]

Ford has been very cagey about the increased range, saying they’ve done it but never describing how.

That's not surprising, and some of the increased range is probably just related to the way they did the tests - they originally used to reduce their testing numbers a little bit to give themselves some wiggle room on what people would see. But, they've learned that every article and vlogger quotes the EPA range as gospel and never bothers to mention that Tesla's EPA range is an absolute fantasy - so Ford is now reporting the most optimistic number it can. Ford's engineers also probably did a lot of tweaks here and there so they can't say for sure what increased the range (beyond removing the fudge factor), so someone somewhere probably chose to mention weight reduction because its an easy thing to quantify.

I know that they haven’t made more battery cells accessible, as they did for the ‘22 MY

Not to be pedantic, but this statement is misleading and I'd like to clarify for anyone else reading the statement:

Complete cells are not "held in reserve" to be used later; the upper and lower buffer applies to each and every cell. All the cells in a module are hardwired together, so the upper and lower buffers mean that each cell is only allowed to be charged to 96% or so of its theoretical maximum and only drained down to 4% or so of "completely dead". For disclosure's sake I don't know the exact numbers for top and bottom, and it is likely the upper buffer is a little smaller than the lower buffer as it is worse to fully discharge than to fully charge. Nonetheless the point is that each cell is used per charge/discharge cycle.

 

[Jimrpa]

So a 1.4% reduction in weight added 5% more range? I think that is a supposition made by someone and passed along down the chain. I would suspect that changes to the size of the upper/lower battery buffer and other software tweaks have a larger impact on the change in EPA range than 70 pounds.

Just because someone wrote something down doesn't make that statement accurate/true.

You do know that someone already tried pointing this out (to no success) in Post #45?

 

[SWO]

You are correct... 1.2 stops the ping pong mostly and tracks the dead center of the lane now.
Just to be clear, the lane change is not automated like SuperCruise's latest revision. You need to tap or flip the blinker on.

Frankly, I like this better. Sometimes you might not want to change lanes.

 

[SWO]

I agree the physics are suspect. I only claimed to have read that in the auto press months ago; not that it’s the gospel. Funny thing is, all this chatter got me to search extensively for a better explanation and I haven’t found any. Ford has been very cagey about the increased range, saying they’ve done it but never describing how. I know that they haven’t made more battery cells accessible, as they did for the ‘22 MY

I still think it's a possibility that the range is increasing (in part, or in whole) on paper and methodology for calculating it.

 

[timbop]

You do know that someone already tried pointing this out (to no success) in Post #45?

No, I got lazy and didn't read through all of it. I should have just skipped the whole thing altogether

 

[4sallypat]

You are correct... 1.2 stops the ping pong mostly and tracks the dead center of the lane now.
Just to be clear, the lane change is not automated like SuperCruise's latest revision. You need to tap or flip the blinker on.

^^^
Just to update this thread since there is talk that Ford is going to release BC1.2 possibly.

My new '23 MME I just put on 900 miles is being tested on busy Los Angeles freeway traffic.

BC1.2 does not ping pong at all - shifts slightly when side traffic gets too close to the lane markers.
Very comfortable and secure feel without the DUI look from behind....

Lane changes are alerted on the driver display and a turn signal tap is needed to make the lane change. If you don't want to change lanes, it will stay in the lane.

Curves are handled much easier (assuming you turned on that feature in the Sync).
Travelling at 65MPH and then a curve appears, the vehicle slows to make the curve feel a bit more in control instead of powering thru it at full speed.

The only annoying feature is that the top end speed limits out to whenever you enabled BC.

So let's say you were driving in 65MPH traffic and started BC; if the traffic starts slowing, then the vehicle slows to match. But if the traffic speeds up, beyond 65MPH, then it stays at 65MPH while other traffic is passing.

 

[hybrid2bev]

^^^
Just to update this thread since there is talk that Ford is going to release BC1.2 possibly.

My new '23 MME I just put on 900 miles is being tested on busy Los Angeles freeway traffic.

BC1.2 does not ping pong at all - shifts slightly when side traffic gets too close to the lane markers.
Very comfortable and secure feel without the DUI look from behind....

Lane changes are alerted on the driver display and a turn signal tap is needed to make the lane change. If you don't want to change lanes, it will stay in the lane.

Curves are handled much easier (assuming you turned on that feature in the Sync).
Travelling at 65MPH and then a curve appears, the vehicle slows to make the curve feel a bit more in control instead of powering thru it at full speed.

The only annoying feature is that the top end speed limits out to whenever you enabled BC.

So let's say you were driving in 65MPH traffic and started BC; if the traffic starts slowing, then the vehicle slows to match. But if the traffic speeds up, beyond 65MPH, then it stays at 65MPH while other traffic is passing.

Great feedback, looking forward to BC 1.2.

If you set the speed at 65 then it should not exceed that speed, that's how cruise control works. You can adjust the BC set speed by rocking the left side steering wheel switch up or down. Move it once for 1 MPH increments or hold it up/down for 5 MPH increments.

You can increase the BC set speed even while the car is actively slowing down to match the traffic speed.

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