Who's to say the hardware at launch is not capable of doing more than 150kw? Tesla has increased their charging speeds via OTA without hardware changes.I don't see how OTA charge rate increase from 150kW is possible. I would think that's governed by hardware (i.e. cable thickness cooling systems, etc). Would love to be wrong though.
We know from the reddit Q&A with the anonymous Ford engineer that the Mach-E was not built for more than 150kW. It definitely can't do 350kW.Who's to say the hardware at launch is not capable of doing more than 150kw? Tesla has increased their charging speeds via OTA without hardware changes.
I'd wager the Mach-E would have the hardware in place to charge faster than 150kw but Ford is waiting to see how the vehicle performs before allowing them to safely increase the speed.
"do you really think that anyone would put that much extra copper wire in a car to support 350kW and not use it? "We know from the reddit Q&A with the anonymous Ford engineer that the Mach-E was not built for more than 150kW. It definitely can't do 350kW.
If the MME had the hardware in place to charge at > 150kW, the time to 80% SoC would be much less than 45 minutes.
There's no benefit in having 200kW+ if there's no way to manage the heat. The car has to have appropriate thermal management systems to cool the batteries but we know from Dave Pericak saying the car can't be tracked that it can't manage sustained heat.
The best way to reduce the time to charge is to maintain >100kW for as long as possible. Audi-tron does this by holding 130-140kW+ all the way to 80%.
350kW would require 800V architecture. It ain't happening."do you really think that anyone would put that much extra copper wire in a car to support 350kW and not use it? "
I took that from the AMA to mean why would Ford make a car capable of higher charging speeds and not allow it....eventually.
Agreed that if Ford can keep the charging curve speed higher for longer (like e-Tron) that would be preferred for me too.
Hope Ford will read this forum from now onWhat is the distinction between first and fifth questions?
Full order to start May(ish) and orders to begin June 20th? I’m assuming, given the very specific date, that June 20 is the day the order system will first be open.
A little disappointing to see that the additional GT color is now described as “MAYBE”.
Also disappointing to hear that roof rack options (like the hitch) are also likely to be region dependent.
I'm good with 150. If I had a stretch goal I would hope for 200's (and maintain that speed for longer).350kW would require 800V architecture. It ain't happening.
It was an extreme non-answer answer... Basically said that either it's shipping with hardware capable of doing more and they will be using it later (surprise the competition), or it isn't capable. He didn't really state which.... and until someone does a tear down of the vehicle and battery pack we don't know what the hardware is capable of.We know from the reddit Q&A with the anonymous Ford engineer that the Mach-E was not built for more than 150kW. It definitely can't do 350kW.
Talk to the dealer where you are going to order. When I asked my dealer, they said that they were not going to take any money from me until they had the vehicle to give me and I could test drive it. Evidently they believe there will be enough demand that they can quickly sell the vehicle if I don't like it. They're probably right!I think only if a full deposit refund is available, I would commit to this.
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