Climate Control Consumption in Trip screen where did my energy go screen

[ROB2337]

I have a question; I recently was driving on a -5C day with a GTPE and was playing with my trip stats. As you can see in the attached photo, I shut off the cabin heating / seats and steering wheel, then I reset my trip 2 counter. After driving 11kms with all the interior heat off the car was still showing that 17% of my power usage at 32KWH/100km is going to heating? Could this be a software bug? Each time I reset the trip it went initially to 0% then back up to around 20%.

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[Deleted member 19354]

I understand folks may want to compromise their comfort for economy but I refuse.

 

[superdave80]

I understand folks may want to compromise their comfort for economy but I refuse.

Well… good for you.

 

[Mach-Lee]

I have a question; I recently was driving on a -5C day with a GTPE and was playing with my trip stats. As you can see in the attached photo, I shut off the cabin heating / seats and steering wheel, then I reset my trip 2 counter. After driving 11kms with all the interior heat off the car was still showing that 17% of my power usage at 32KWH/100km is going to heating? Could this be a software bug? Each time I reset the trip it went initially to 0% then back up to around 20%.

If you shut off the HVAC, then it's going to use the heater to warm up the battery instead. To avoid that, you should leave it plugged in or use a departure time before leaving.

 

[ROB2337]

If you shut off the HVAC, then it's going to use the heater to warm up the battery instead. To avoid that, you should leave it plugged in or use a departure time before leaving.

I believe then this should be under the exterior temperature % no ( the 3% in the photo)? I am aware how to precondition, I just think think this may be a bug and wanted to know what others think.

 

[ROB2337]

I understand folks may want to compromise their comfort for economy but I refuse.

Who said I was sacrificing comfort? All I did was a small test for 6 miles on the highway. I never drive with the heat off in winter

 

[Mach-Lee]

I believe then this should be under the exterior temperature % no ( the 3% in the photo)? I am aware how to precondition, I just think think this may be a bug and wanted to know what others think.

Any heater or A/C compressor use will fall under the "climate use" category regardless of whether it's used for the cabin or the battery. That's just how it's metered coming out of the battery (high voltage aux circuit).

HVAC off does heat the battery even if you don't have a nav destination for preconditioning entered, if the battery is cold enough. If you do a departure time to warm up the battery first, then drive it with the heat off, the climate use will be 0% since because the battery will be warm.

So it's not a bug, rather intended operation to warm a cold battery when there's no cabin heat demand.

 

[ROB2337]

Any heater or A/C compressor use will fall under the "climate use" category regardless of whether it's used for the cabin or the battery. That's just how it's metered coming out of the battery (high voltage aux circuit).

HVAC off does heat the battery even if you don't have a nav destination for preconditioning entered, if the battery is cold enough. If you do a departure time to warm up the battery first, then drive it with the heat off, the climate use will be 0% since because the battery will be warm.

So it's not a bug, rather intended operation to warm a cold battery when there's no cabin heat demand.

Thanks for the reply, then what type of energy consumption would fall under the exterior temperature category on the bar graph. (the 3% in my photo)?

 

[milepost1]

I have a question; I recently was driving on a -5C day with a GTPE and was playing with my trip stats. As you can see in the attached photo, I shut off the cabin heating / seats and steering wheel, then I reset my trip 2 counter. After driving 11kms with all the interior heat off the car was still showing that 17% of my power usage at 32KWH/100km is going to heating? Could this be a software bug? Each time I reset the trip it went initially to 0% then back up to around 20%.

I have never figured out how to use what I see as worthless info. Instantaneous might have meaning. Leaving is all down Hill so use little on "driving" all energy for everything else. When I come home it's all uphill so majority is for driving. Now what does that tell me? And surprisingly if I drive father more goes to driving. Still what does it tell me? If I am in Stop and go less to driving. I personally don't find this info even interesting.

 

[21FE]

Any heater or A/C compressor use will fall under the "climate use" category regardless of whether it's used for the cabin or the battery. That's just how it's metered coming out of the battery (high voltage aux circuit).

HVAC off does heat the battery even if you don't have a nav destination for preconditioning entered, if the battery is cold enough. If you do a departure time to warm up the battery first, then drive it with the heat off, the climate use will be 0% since because the battery will be warm.

So it's not a bug, rather intended operation to warm a cold battery when there's no cabin heat demand.

Hi MachLee

Do you have a link explaining the difference between climate and exterior?

Thanks Alan

 

[Mach-Lee]

Hi MachLee

Do you have a link explaining the difference between climate and exterior?

Thanks Alan

Climate is the energy used by the PTC heater and A/C compressor to heat/cool the cabin and battery. Exterior is the estimated energy losses due to outside temperature (not an actual measurement). It’s in the owners manual.

 

[21FE]

Climate is the energy used by the PTC heater and A/C compressor to heat/cool the cabin and battery. Exterior is the estimated energy losses due to outside temperature (not an actual measurement). It’s in the owners manual.

Thanks ! I just found another informative post of yours that explained it.
Side note I did browse the 2021 pdf but must of missed it. *found it(pg 125)
Thanks for all the great information on this forum.

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