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Message me when ALL computers and components in the MachE can be software updated remotely. That comment STANDS, and you yourself were kind enough to even send numbers quantifying as such.

I was incorrect. The degree to which is the argument now, and you have made it emotional.

Bjorn uses a loop test, where he drives the same real roads. Some of those are at cold temp b/c they are in the mountains, some are warm temp down near sea level, etc. He includes all temp and weather data in his testing spreadsheet for people to be fully informed.

Thanks. I thought there was a time-limit to the edits.

NOT mis-information. The OTA updates pushed to non-Teslas are confined to primarily nav/infotainment, charging, and a few non-critical systems. They still cannot push firmware updates to core components like motors, battery management system, etc. At least in the release notes I have not...

You read Chinese? You know the translation is accurate? Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep buddy. Tesla "recalls" = OTA software updates for every computer component in the car. Everyone else = painful multi-hour trip to the stealership for some components

Now you are conflating. That dataset addresses, specifically, crash-caused fires. It also still supports the conclusion that BEVs have lower fire rates than ICE/hybrid (but more severe fires). I was talking overall fire rates however, of which crashes would be a part. Overall fire rates for...

This is correct, Chinese-assembled cars shipped to the USA would be subject to very large tariffs, which is why Tesla doesn't do it, at all. They do import some of the LFP battery packs from China for the SR Model 3, but that's the extent of it.

This is a lie on your part. It was literally a "feature update" that the Gov request Tesla (and other auto manufs) add. https://electrek.co/2023/05/12/tesla-1-million-car-recall-feature-update/ Chinese authorities fully approved the cars as they were designed when they were sold to customers...

And if you go an READ what those "recalls" were, they were all things for regulatory purposes. Things that were addressed in pretty much all cases with OTA updates. They were NOT manufacturing defects.

No, you are now flat out lying. If there were any kind of significant problem, NHTSA would be all over Tesla (and has been in the past). The FACTS are that BEVs have significantly lower fire rates than ICE (and hybrids, which are ICE variants). This has been borne out over and over and over...

No, none. They have to meet minimum roadworthiness and safety guidelines, but that is all the "quality" requirement they have to meet.

Father-in-law is Vietnamese. His words on Vinfast: "I would never buy one. Even in Vietnam there were considered cheap and unsafe, I don't think much has changed."

OK, this is just pure haterspeak now. LIDAR = EXPENSIVE, I have a friend that works for Luminar and each Lidar is over $1500 in bulk, and you need multiple ones on a car to obtain enough info for the car to have an understanding of what is around it. Cameras are cheap and reliable. HD maps -...

"Driverless" cars have been geofenced to TINY little areas where they can work, and at times of day that make them very impractical (Cruise - I'm looking at you). This is a drive - ONLY using cameras and AI. No HD maps, no lidar, no radar even. Just AI and cameras, in rush hour for both...

Not trying to stir the pot . . . but since this has been talked about here, with people liking to say "but Musk promised coast to coast driving in 20xx". What happens when it really happens? And I bring this up because we now have multiple reports of intervention-free drives from SF to LA...

You COMPLETELY missed my point. My POINT was that cars can have significant fire risks even if they are NOT EVs. In fact, EVs are the least likely to have fires (Tesla's included) of the 3 categories, hybrids being the highest of the group (makes sense, they are the most complicated...

Car in your sig has a lot higher battery fire rate: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35683821/toyota-rav4-battery-fire-risk-investigation/ https://www.classaction.org/toyota-rav4-car-fire-lawsuits...

Meh. I view it more along the MPG range that ICE cars show. I've never in my life gotten the EPA MPG on a car I owned. Not once. Always something I've taken with a grain of salt, and noted that my variance on some cars was a little off, while on others it was a lot off.

Actually, this assumption above is not entirely correct. A manuf can opt to remove mileage (but not add it) after they run either the 2 or 5 cycle test. They can opt to be more conservative in their rating than what either test results from. The Porsche Taycan is the classic example of this...