2025 Mustang Mach-E Adds Sportier Looks, Auto Lane Changes, Heat Pump, Ventilated Seats & More

[enhost]

BTW, you gain a heat pump but you lose ~ half the frunk space:

One of my photos from an event last week in NY state. More on that coming.

Hahaha oh my god. They really need to hire a ton of Tesla people. The HVAC system of this thing is like built in the USSR.

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[phil]

No, the new GT seats which are the old GTPE seats are not full of holes. The material is a solid cloth with no holes. There are a few holes in the middle but that is just design.

You know, I must have seen those seats a thousand times in photos, and a couple times in person, and sat in them. I never noticed that the holes are only in the middle. I guess my eyes just figured "Why wouldn't they go all the way to the edge?"

 

[enhost]

I'll be interested to see if the new heat pump is also more efficient in air conditioning mode. I don't think the old AC was specific to EVs, so it may not have been designed with efficiency in mind.

"New electrical architecture" could mean anything from "we changed a few wires" to "we implemented a zonal 48v architecture (unlikely)." Lithium 12V battery seems like a good guess. Bringing in some in-house designed components/control modules designed for the nextgen vehicles to replace things repurposed from internal combustion platforms is probably also something that would be both feasible and beneficial.

By the size of that thing, I am inclined to think is not cutting edge HVAC technology. Lose half frunk because of it? Lol, come on Ford.

 

[Just Lurking]

Heat pumps are not very effective at temperatures around freezing or below (which is why all residential heat pump systems have electric resistance “auxiliary” or “emergency” systems).

As has been mentioned repeatedly - this is just not true anymore with "cold climate" heat pumps. In many fairly cold regions cold climate heat pumps can be installed with no backup heating at all.

I have to question the heat pump hype for a car (notwithstanding that I heat my house that way). Unless it's designed as a "cold climate" unit, it won't be a game changer in really cold climates.

Why wouldn't it be a cold climate heat pump? It's not an exotic technology anymore, and the whole point of adding a heat pump is to improve range during cold weather.

It will, in any event, be slow to deliver heat and that is important to get those windows defrosted, especially if your trip isn't that long. I really like the instant heat, along with the incredible seat heaters, that we have now.

Do other EVs with heat pumps take longer to heat up? (Genuine question, I really don't know.)

The seat heaters are far too hot for my liking, but that's a different subject...

The seat warmers are scorching hot! Anyone use the seat warmers above level 1?

Ok, switching to seat warmers, they are actually too hot for me on level 1 unless it's quite cold out. I think it's a poor design - I'd much rather a milder level 1 setting that would be usable in cool but not frigid temperatures.

If my seats are on, it is always level 3!

Wow! I can see that being useful in truly frigid temperatures which I'm guessing you experience, but what about the shoulder season?

Power liftgates are useless for tall people.

I'm very tall and find a power liftgate very useful. I use it to open the trunk from inside the car (for kids or spouse to place / remove item, for "drive-up" shopping to deliver right to the trunk, for closing the trunk when said spouse has forgotten to do it themselves, for opening trunk as I approach, and so on.)

I don’t know about setting individual temps per profile but I believe below is the forscan section to change the steering wheel temp to your wife’s liking ?

Does this exist for the scorching heat warmers? I'd love to set a milder temperature, at least for level 1!

 

[macchiaz-o]

If an infant fits, they have to have a working escape button. Which was the whole point of the special baby-blocking frunk divider on early 2021s when the button didn’t work.

The requirement is that if the 3-year old test dummy described in federal code fits in the trunk, then an emergency escape latch must be provided.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-571/subpart-B/section-571.401

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Wait so they redesigned the center and kept an active park assist button that does nothing????

Think of it as a standard equipment Fidget Device!

 

[ChasingCoral]

The requirement is that if the 3-year old test dummy described in federal code fits in the trunk, then an emergency escape latch must be provided.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-571/subpart-B/section-571.401

You can’t use a new test dummy? Do the expire at 4 years old? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[macchiaz-o]

You can’t use a new test dummy? Do the expire at 4 years old? Inquiring minds want to know.

Before responding to Lee, I dug into the details rabbit hole... Our government will actually lend you a three year old dummy upon request!

I was wondering if they'd want the dummy back after it's been crashed.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

I can’t wait for all the future posts;

“My range is down in Winter. My Heat Pump is must be Broken.”

Granted it will be fewer of us who live where it’s REALLY cold.

I beg your pardon but it was cold here today. 8 am temperature was 64. Parka weather.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Hahaha oh my god. They really need to hire a ton of Tesla people. The HVAC system of this thing is like built in the USSR.

There’s a post a few pages back with a better explanation. It’s not just the heat pump but also the radiator orientation change. Apparently it’s now down to Tesla sized frunk territory. A shame imo.

 

[ATL]

As has been mentioned repeatedly - this is just not true anymore with "cold climate" heat pumps. In many fairly cold regions cold climate heat pumps can be installed with no backup heating at all.

Why wouldn't it be a cold climate heat pump? It's not an exotic technology anymore, and the whole point of adding a heat pump is to improve range during cold weather.

Do other EVs with heat pumps take longer to heat up? (Genuine question, I really don't know.)

The seat heaters are far too hot for my liking

I'm well familiar with cold climate units. My question is also genuine. Is the Mach-E unit so designed? A question for some of our plugged-in members.

As far as response speed, I think just heating up the mass of the refrigerant by compressor action will take longer than the simple and powerful heating element. I'd be interested in seeing some engineering data on that but it seems unlikely.

Seat heat is a personal thing. Level 3 is great to get it warmed fast, then level 1 is perfect for my taste...to each his/her own.

 

[tuminatr]

I wouldn't want a native NACS port yet. In the part of the country I road trip most in (CO/WY/UT/NV), rural Supercharger stations are still mostly V2s. Only about 10% of my DCFCs are at SC, with 90% still at EA.

My interest in native NACS will track Tesla's plans to replace most of the V2s. Which is a complete unknown at this point. Could still be years away AFAIK.

Imagine this Hyundai changed for 2025, and their cars are 800v.

 

[Mach-Lee]

Why? Do you enjoy collecting adapters for DCFC?

The requirement is that if the 3-year old test dummy described in federal code fits in the trunk, then an emergency escape latch must be provided.

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-571/subpart-B/section-571.401

Ah. I want the job of testing if the child dummy fits in the frunk any possible way by slamming the lid closed repeatedly Clark Griswold style. Title: "Dummy fitment compliance engineer" AKA "Frunk stuffing ninja".

 

[devmach-e]

Two reasons:
1. Heat pumps are not very effective at temperatures around freezing or below (which is why all residential heat pump systems have electric resistance “auxiliary” or “emergency” systems).

Not true. Modern residential heat pumps are good down to -10F or lower. No backup electric resistance heat necessary. My heat pump doesn’t have any backup heat strips in the air handler.

 

[shutterbug]

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