NACS coming in 2025, right? but what about port placement?

[astrorob]

previously i had posted asking about MME alternatives, but i think i decided to just buy another mach-e now, in case the tariffs are real. i'm assuming it might be quite expensive to replace when my options loan ends in december 2025. could be wrong about this, of course, and not totally committed yet.

i understand that the NACS port is coming to the 2025 MY mach-e, but what about the port placement? it seems like unless they move it to the back of the car you're going to have a hard time charging at busy superchargers and/or end up in fistfights with angry tesla owners when you're blocking 2 spots to charge. anyone know if ford plans to move the port to the driver's side rear?

thanks

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[available_username2]

nacs will be in the same place

 

[AngryMan]

i understand that the NACS port is coming to the 2025 MY mach-e, but what about the port placement? it seems like unless they move it to the back of the car you're going to have a hard time charging at busy superchargers and/or end up in fistfights with angry tesla owners when you're blocking 2 spots to charge. anyone know if ford plans to move the port to the driver's side rear?

thanks

Not sure what Fords doing but I saw a recent article that stated Tesla is doing some remodeling of their SC sites. Longer cables and redesigning the stalls to allow CyberTrucks to pull in while towing a trailer . Those spots would work for us ....in theory .

 

[astrorob]

nacs will be in the same place

yeah in 2025, i assume, based on pictures. but i wasn't really clear that i was asking about MY 2026 and beyond.

Not sure what Fords doing but I saw a recent article that stated Tesla is doing some remodeling of their SC sites. Longer cables and redesigning the stalls to allow CyberTrucks to pull in while towing a trailer . Those spots would work for us ....in theory .

that's good info. wonder how many of those they would build. i got the impression that supercharger stuff was kind of on hold at tesla since they laid everyone off in the SC department some time ago.

 

[tuminatr]

previously i had posted asking about MME alternatives, but i think i decided to just buy another mach-e now, in case the tariffs are real. i'm assuming it might be quite expensive to replace when my options loan ends in december 2025. could be wrong about this, of course, and not totally committed yet.

i understand that the NACS port is coming to the 2025 MY mach-e, but what about the port placement? it seems like unless they move it to the back of the car you're going to have a hard time charging at busy superchargers and/or end up in fistfights with angry tesla owners when you're blocking 2 spots to charge. anyone know if ford plans to move the port to the driver's side rear?

thanks

The 2025 will have a CCS connector. Some have speculated that 2026 will have native NACS, but Ford has not confirmed this.

In my opinion, the current generation of MME won't receive a native NACS port. Ford will include an adaptor with new car purchases.

in a podcast interview, Jim Farley mentioned that next-generation Ford EVs will have a charging port on the rear quarter panel like Tesla to help with NACS adoption.

 

[astrorob]

ok so sounds like the charging port is not a reason to delay purchase. thanks.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Ford has intimated that the next generation car will get the Brand T port. The next generation will not go into production until late 2026 (making it a 2027 model year car). ?‍?

 

[bbulkow]

ok so sounds like the charging port is not a reason to delay purchase. thanks.

Im honestly surprised having to use an adapter would weigh into a purchase, given all the other differences between models, price, roof, frunk, interior size, screen size, info system, driver assist systems, range, performance, dealer experience....

Tesla owners use an L2 adapter most of the time when using L2 chargers. Comes with the car, takes a second to snap in. When you rent a Tesla with Hertz there is one in the car. No one seems really bothered. And, with all the ccs chargers in the world, plenty of tesla owners get ccs adapters too

Can you help me understand how using an adapter comes into your decision process?

 

[astrorob]

Im honestly surprised having to use an adapter would weigh into a purchase, given all the other differences between models, price, roof, frunk, interior size, screen size, info system, driver assist systems, range, performance, dealer experience....

Tesla owners use an L2 adapter most of the time when using L2 chargers. Comes with the car, takes a second to snap in. When you rent a Tesla with Hertz there is one in the car. No one seems really bothered. And, with all the ccs chargers in the world, plenty of tesla owners get ccs adapters too

Can you help me understand how using an adapter comes into your decision process?

the problem is not the adapter, the problem is actually the placement of the port. as i mentioned in my original post, if you use a supercharger in an MME you end up blocking 2 spaces. this doesn't endear MME drivers to tesla drivers. so i was simply wondering if ford had any plans to move the port to the rear of the car, since to me switching to NACS is only half of the solution of better fast charging for MMEs.

 

[HuntingPudel]

I hope that Ford never moves the charge port to either extreme end of the car, especially not to the more vulnerable corners. ?‍?

 

[bbulkow]

the problem is not the adapter, the problem is actually the placement of the port. as i mentioned in my original post, if you use a supercharger in an MME you end up blocking 2 spaces. this doesn't endear MME drivers to tesla drivers. so i was simply wondering if ford had any plans to move the port to the rear of the car, since to me switching to NACS is only half of the solution of better fast charging for MMEs.

Makes sense.

Tesla's quarterly report said they have modified 1500 stations (not stalls) to remove this problem. Speculation is they are removing bollards and curbs wherever possible, as they now have not just ford and rivian but chevy and Hyundai users to contend with. Whether they can or will retrofit with longer cables is something i haven't seen believable truth on. Since it came up in the earnings report they seem to be taking it seriously

My personal experience is to look for the supercharger station that is half full seems there is often a newer one on my route that is a good target. I have always had to take to two spots but never gotten grief about it. Especially as there always seems to be a rivian charging and as long as the non teslas stack up right so it is one lost space for the station instead of one per stall....

Hopefully they will start marking stalls as suitable for non teslas.... But it is certainly a hassle.

I would be shocked if there is a my26 that isn't a gen2, and agree it might be worth waiting for, even if i haven't had a hassle yet myself

 

[tuminatr]

This is exactly right, Tesla is changing the configuration of their superchargers to accommodate. They have even acknowledged the next Gen stations will have a longer cord.

 

[AZBill]

This is a new site in Kayenta Az, where Tesla added a parking spot to the far right to accommodate the front driver side ports.

 

[ARK]

I would not replace a Mach-E two years into a three year option contract because of the risk of tariffs. You would be eating a ton of depreciation to get a brand new vehicle two years in, a vehicle that was not substantially changed between MY23 and MY24.

Someone considering buying a Mach-E in a month or two, sure, it makes plenty of sense to bring that timeline up and to pull the trigger now. But a year away, you are trading a tariff hit for a depreciation hit. And that's only if the max tariffs get implemented. More likely, there will be some deal for no tariffs or minimal tariffs - you would still come out ahead by avoiding the depreciation hit.

 

[astrorob]

well my other car is a 2012 prius plug in. before EVs, buying and holding forever was my normal mode of car ownership. at this point after 3 leases i feel like the technology is mature enough to just buy one and run the wheels off of it. whether or not to trust ford with that methodology is another question. anyway in that context the depreciation isn’t as big a factor.

the prius will likely be transferred to a kid leaving for school early next year, so that’s another point - the purchase of the new MME isn’t entirely about the options loan ending next year, but likely needing a second car soon.

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