Copilot360 vs Tesla Autopilot

[celestial_knight]

Is it good enough to use for 90% of your drive, including local roads and semi sharp curves?

2025s+ have new hardware and are quite good, can drive anywhere there are lane lines

A curve has to be a very sharp low speed curve for it to drop. It can drive on New York's Taconic State Parkway without any interventions

It slows down if it thinks it needs to for curves ahead of you, without BlueCruise

As others have said, it is a pretty good cooperative driver as well; you can leave it on and do your own driving inputs and steering inputs if so desired without much trouble. And you typically don't need to; I do so only to pass faster

This is why the BlueCruise 1.5 platform is the number 2 ADAS behind Tesla in the United States, at least until Mercedes and Rivian get their act together

The Taconic State Parkway:

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[Blue highway]

Not true. Auto steer which is lane centering does not exist anymore. Adaptive cruise control does remain.

it is true... I used it on my 23 Y today.

 

[TNGreenMachE]

Tesla "Autopilot" was removed FROM NEW CARS starting earlier this year in January. Identical cars sitting on the lot had Autopilot on one day and only TACC the next. Cars before the cutoff still have Autopilot which consists of TACC and lane centering and they keep it. Any Tesla prior to a date certain January sale/lease still has Autopilot function.

If you get a new Tesla today, it comes with TACC. That's it, no lane centering on ANY road. If you want lane centering you will need the $99/month subscription to Supervised FSD.

 

[WallyS56]

As I continue my search for a car, I’m curious if anyone here has been driving their car without a bluecruise subscription.

I understand that the MME has hands-on lane centering on all roads similar to Teslas free Autopilot (not FSD). It’s a big deal to me since i have a long commute, often in stop and go traffic, and would like to have some driving help from the car. Especially in stop and go situations. Tesla autopilot did a great job in that arena.

How does the MME CoPilot perform? Is it as good as the free Tesla Autopilot? Is it good enough to use for 90% of your drive, including local roads and semi sharp curves?

Also, is it able to basically do everything that having a BlueCruise subscription does except that you have to keep hands on wheel?

Turn on lane-keeping and cruise, keep one n hand on the steering wheel, and you’ve got Blue Cruise minus lane changing. I’m tall enough to wedge a knee against the wheel to keep the required pressure applied.

 

[leemoknows]

My '26 will center me in lanes and often move me to the left or right, if there is something large or encroaching in the next lane. I'm not sure what it's officially called, but I call it adaptive cruise control. When it's enabled, you also need the lane assist on for it to do this. occasionally, it will notify you that it was turned off if the lanes are marked poorly. It will turn itself back on when it sees lane markings again. I know that it will not start from a stop if you manually reactive adaptive cruise, like from a stop sign or light. I haven't tried to see if it will start moving the car again if it brought itself to a stop due to the car in front of you.

 

[corradoborg]

I haven't tried to see if it will start moving the car again if it brought itself to a stop due to the car in front of you.

It does. I love it in stop-and-go traffic. I turn the drive mode down to Whisper so it's less jerky in its response, and just let the car do the driving.

 

[tbrumleve]

One is backed by a bigoted, racist, white supremacist, one is not. One will actively try to kill you, one will not. Simple decision if you’re not a garbage human. F^ck Te$la and their sh!t CEO. Full stop. If you support them, you are complicit. Going camera only is the biggest failure of Te$la. Anyone driving one screams “loser” or “bigot”. Take your pick. They were the only game for a while, now we see what crap they are. China is light years ahead because Elmo stifled the US tech to benefit his sup par cars. Never, ever, would I buy a piece of crap te$la.

 

[Billyk24]

One is backed by a bigoted, racist, white supremacist, one is not. One will actively try to kill you, one will not. Simple decision if you’re not a garbage human. F^ck Te$la and their sh!t CEO. Full stop. If you support them, you are complicit. Going camera only is the biggest failure of Te$la. Anyone driving one screams “loser” or “bigot”. Take your pick. They were the only game for a while, now we see what crap they are. China is light years ahead because Elmo stifled the US tech to benefit his sup par cars. Never, ever, would I buy a piece of crap te$la.

Hope you let out some steam. None of this added to contents of the thread.

 

[Space_Pony]

One is backed by a bigoted, racist, white supremacist, one is not. One will actively try to kill you, one will not. Simple decision if you’re not a garbage human. F^ck Te$la and their sh!t CEO. Full stop. If you support them, you are complicit. Going camera only is the biggest failure of Te$la. Anyone driving one screams “loser” or “bigot”. Take your pick. They were the only game for a while, now we see what crap they are. China is light years ahead because Elmo stifled the US tech to benefit his sup par cars. Never, ever, would I buy a piece of crap te$la.

I know a couple of people with Teslas and they are good constructive hardworking people and are not bigots or losers. It sounds like you could use some therapy to get past your bias. Judging somebody by what they drive will get you nowhere fast.

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