Corona Virus Posts ONLY

[pbojanoski]

I don't think I stated any facts. Pretty sure I just said "I'm not sure it is as bad as stated in the above graphs." And based on the many sources saying there is probably a large portion of the population that has the virus and is never detected, I think that opinion may be correct.

You are quite an amusing poster, I have to say! ? I think you are just trolling for reaction, so I think I'll no longer respond to you assuming your are serious. Thanks!

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[ChasingCoral]

GM, Ford studying how to make ventilators to fight COVID-19
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...w-make-ventilators-fight-covid-19/2871290001/

 

[pbojanoski]

Hey Lyt, I posted no such data sheet. And I don't see any anger in my posts. I think you better recheck your info, you obviously have me confused with someone else.

 

[pbojanoski]

You are obviously a jokester. ? I never said this was just a bad case of the flu. What I did say is that shutting down the economy would be worse than this disease. We know the high risk groups, protect them. We know how to minimize transmission with creating space and keeping hands clean. We have tests to find out who is sick. Let's employ all we know to keep people safe, but still living their lives and working their jobs. South Korea has found a way to keep the spread down without isolating people in their homes. What can we learn from that?

Hey Lyt, get your facts straight. Do a little real research and not just from the China "Global Times". Thanks.

And this WILL be the last time I respond to you about anything other than the Mach E. You are more interested in trolling people than actually having an intelligent and honest conversation.

 

[pbojanoski]

South Korea's answer. Something to follow?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success

 

[ChasingCoral]

South Korea's answer. Something to follow?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success

Yes, the US has severely failed on testing. Hopefully that will be resolved in another week.

 

[Sweetwater]

This is all bad for us in every aspect of life as we know it. MSNBC reported that
in the east coast area : Husband and wife and their 5 yr. have it one more child 4 yr.
is clear. But the worst news (his or her) Mother and their 2 sisters have died from it.

MSNBC just announced another family member passed away.
4 members from one family. ?

 

[Sweetwater]

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3 days. Please buy from USA sellers.


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[TheSteelRider]

My opinion, since you asked ?

Is it as bad right now as the media is making it out to be? No.

Could it become as bad as the media is making it out to be if we all don't cooperate? Absolutely.

Perhaps the death rate is being exaggerated. However, the ease at which this virus appears to be transmittable is mind-boggling. At a mere 0.1% death rate, if 80% of all 300 - 400 million Americans become infected (choosing 80% according to the maths in the research papers; by all means you pick your favorite number and run the result) that means 240,000 - 320,000 people die in America alone (did I calculate that correctly?).

My stance is this ---

I am not a medical professional. I am not a scientist. But, I am a college-educated individual. I have read the Imperial College report () and reports from the CDC and other respected experts. I made an "A" in Algebra in High School, and using my Algebra skills I am able to understand and appreciate the exponential component of infections.

I have further engaged my own life experiences and behavior. Each day I bring my daughter to school, where I personally encounter a dozen people. I drive to work and while there I interact with several dozen people. I sometimes stop by the grocery store on the way home and interact with several people. In my normal daily life, I bet I have close contact with at least 100 other people. And, I bet those 100 people each have close contact with 100 other people. 100 times 100 equals 10,000. Then, the next day those 10,000 people contacting 100 other people means 1,000,000 people.

It is not beyond mathematical reason that, if the medical professionals are at least partially accurate, and the US did not enact strict "social distancing" and other measures, we would see millions upon millions infected that, even with a low death rate means city-sized amounts of people die.

*I* don't want to be the reason why someone dies. I therefore am staying home. And rationing my TP.

 

[pbojanoski]

My opinion, since you asked ?

Is it as bad right now as the media is making it out to be? No.

Could it become as bad as the media is making it out to be if we all don't cooperate? Absolutely.

Perhaps the death rate is being exaggerated. However, the ease at which this virus appears to be transmittable is mind-boggling. At a mere 0.1% death rate, if 80% of all 300 - 400 million Americans become infected (choosing 80% according to the maths in the research papers; by all means you pick your favorite number and run the result) that means 240,000 - 320,000 people die in America alone (did I calculate that correctly?).

It is not beyond mathematical reason that, if the medical professionals are at least partially accurate, and the US did not enact strict "social distancing" and other measures, we would see millions upon millions infected that, even with a low death rate means city-sized amounts of people die.

*I* don't want to be the reason why someone dies. I therefore am staying home. And rationing my TP.

Unfortunately in life we are always in a balancing act and making decisions on risk/reward throughout every day. In this case we have to look at how we can mitigate the effects of this disease, protect the most vulnerable, but keep the economy from crashing. A bad or crashing economy will have dire consequences for everyone and it might take a lot longer to recover than this disease.

 

[dbsb3233]

A bad or crashing economy will have dire consequences for everyone and it might take a lot longer to recover than this disease.

And kill people all in itself. There's people that aren't even allowed in to a doctor right now (seemingly non-emergency) for things that will end up killing them because they'll have to wait a month to get diagnosed. There's people that will go bankrupt and lose their homes and end up homeless (or worse). There's people that won't be able to afford their medications that will die. Having more money means more and better treatment; and less money means less and worse treatment. And less/worse means more dying.

 

[dbsb3233]

That's a straw man. Never said it's just a bad case of the flu. I was talking about the death rates shrinking and approaching the death rate of the flu as we get a better handle on counts of people that get the virus. It's clear that we're so far way undercounting how many have it (and don't die from it) simply because we haven't developed the testing and and diagnosing and data modeling to the degree that we have the seasonal flu.

This discussion is getting increasingly testy and annoying. In a frickin` car forum no less. Hopefully it just ends before we have to start blocking posters.

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