FORD FURTHER POSTPONES NA PRODUCTION RESTART TO PROTECT WORKFORCE - UNKNOWN RESTART DATE

[Ken7]

Rather than comment or rebut some of the silly, negative & unconstructive remarks on this page, I'd rather post this from a retired U.S. Congressman that pretty well reflects my feelings:

From: John Porter

To: Americans Everywhere

April, 2020

I only ask of you to just please consider this.

The bottom line for some has been that Trump is a jerk. He’s crude, he bloviates, he gets his feelings hurt and he’s a hot head, and he should stay off Twitter.

Let me tell you what else he is. He is a guy that demands performance. He is a guy that asks lots of questions. The questions he asks aren’t cloaked in fancy phrases, they are “why the hell....” questions.

For decades the health industry has thrown away billions of face masks after one use. Trump asks, “Why the hell are we throwing them away? Why not sterilize them and use them numerous times?”

He’s the guy that gets hospital ships readied in one week, when it would have taken a bureaucrat weeks or months to get it done. He’s the guy that gets temporary hospitals with hundreds of beds built in three days. He’s the guy that gets industries to build ventilators and face masks in a business that’s highly regulated by agencies that move like sloths.

He’s the guy that, in spite of all the naysayers, asks why we aren’t using already existing drugs that may work on people who are dying; what the hell do we have to lose? He’s the guy that shut down travel from China, when the liberals and the media and the W.H.O. were screaming xenophobia and racist. Now they are asking why didn't he react sooner?

He’s the guy that ran for president on securing the border in the face of the screaming Socialist Democrats and media. When he shut down borders in the midst of the corona -virus they were up in arms over such a draconian move. Then the rest of the world followed suit all over, including the European Union between member countries.

Has he made mistakes, possibly. Everyone I, or you, know would have. All of these experts wouldn’t have done any better, and probably not as good. Trump is working harder than I’ve ever seen a President work (and donating his entire salary to charities). He isn’t hiding in his office sending out mouth pieces. He’s out front every day in person fielding any and all questions.

Take for instance, all the shortages of PPE’s and ventilators. I’m unaware of anything that prevented all of these governors from ordering all the PPE and ventilators for emergency purposes over the last two years. And yet, it is Trump’s fault that they didn’t?

He’s balanced his approach to this China born disaster and listened to the experts, when his diehard enemies in the media and political arena said he wouldn’t and couldn’t. In their eyes when he offers hope, he’s lying and when he’s straight forward, he should be hopeful. It’s a no win situation for him in their relentless attacks, but he is not deterred by all of that BS coming from the press and the liberals.

I’ll take this kind of leadership over a nice guy that can make eloquent speeches. I like his George Patton style. "There are those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who say "what happened?"

Donald Trump is a guy who makes things happen. He makes them happen for America First!

Logic and common sense, what a strange idea!!!!

I am very proud to proclaim, he is my President.

John Porter

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[pbojanoski]

Pete, I did not mean my reply to you specificly, it was just a comment on the whole situation, I find all this crap useless and very non productive,,,,,,,,,I'm sorrry if you took my comment to mean it was against you, it was not.......the last thing I would want to do is a personal attack.......I see how bad it has gotten here with others........my comments are meant to be general, NOT toward anyone in particular.......I am not sorry for what I said, just it was not intended toward any one person......take care

Thanks for the clarification @c max. I appreciate the kind words.

I do still think, though, that people love to hate Trump to a degree never seen before and for reasons that seem to have very little to do with what is happening in government.

I think we would all do the country a favor by focusing on issues and doing so without waving the "team" flag. What exactly is accomplished by just attacking the other team ad nauseam? The whole election will come down to personalities, personal attacks, and political hatchet jobs.

It is disgusting and we ALL lose.

Somewhere we need to start getting better, being better.

 

[Ken7]

Thanks for the clarification @c max. I appreciate the kind words.

I do still think, though, that people love to hate Trump to a degree never seen before and for reasons that seem to have very little to do with what is happening in government.

I think we would all do the country a favor by focusing on issues and doing so without waving the "team" flag. What exactly is accomplished by just attacking the other team ad nauseam? The whole election will come down to personalities, personal attacks, and political hatchet jobs.

It is disgusting and we ALL lose.

Somewhere we need to start getting better, being better.

Some have said that Trump is probably the most hated President since Lincoln. I wasn't around then () but from what I've read, that's probably true. Personally, I think the left wakes up every day and just assumes Trump has done something to warrant their wrath & hatred, they just need to find it or invent it.

 

[pbojanoski]

Rather than comment or rebut some of the silly, negative & unconstructive remarks on this page, I'd rather post this from a retired U.S. Congressman that pretty well reflects my feelings:

From: John Porter

To: Americans Everywhere

April, 2020

I only ask of you to just please consider this.

The bottom line for some has been that Trump is a jerk. He’s crude, he bloviates, he gets his feelings hurt and he’s a hot head, and he should stay off Twitter.

Let me tell you what else he is. He is a guy that demands performance. He is a guy that asks lots of questions. The questions he asks aren’t cloaked in fancy phrases, they are “why the hell....” questions.

For decades the health industry has thrown away billions of face masks after one use. Trump asks, “Why the hell are we throwing them away? Why not sterilize them and use them numerous times?”

He’s the guy that gets hospital ships readied in one week, when it would have taken a bureaucrat weeks or months to get it done. He’s the guy that gets temporary hospitals with hundreds of beds built in three days. He’s the guy that gets industries to build ventilators and face masks in a business that’s highly regulated by agencies that move like sloths.

He’s the guy that, in spite of all the naysayers, asks why we aren’t using already existing drugs that may work on people who are dying; what the hell do we have to lose? He’s the guy that shut down travel from China, when the liberals and the media and the W.H.O. were screaming xenophobia and racist. Now they are asking why didn't he react sooner?

He’s the guy that ran for president on securing the border in the face of the screaming Socialist Democrats and media. When he shut down borders in the midst of the corona -virus they were up in arms over such a draconian move. Then the rest of the world followed suit all over, including the European Union between member countries.

Has he made mistakes, possibly. Everyone I, or you, know would have. All of these experts wouldn’t have done any better, and probably not as good. Trump is working harder than I’ve ever seen a President work (and donating his entire salary to charities). He isn’t hiding in his office sending out mouth pieces. He’s out front every day in person fielding any and all questions.

Take for instance, all the shortages of PPE’s and ventilators. I’m unaware of anything that prevented all of these governors from ordering all the PPE and ventilators for emergency purposes over the last two years. And yet, it is Trump’s fault that they didn’t?

He’s balanced his approach to this China born disaster and listened to the experts, when his diehard enemies in the media and political arena said he wouldn’t and couldn’t. In their eyes when he offers hope, he’s lying and when he’s straight forward, he should be hopeful. It’s a no win situation for him in their relentless attacks, but he is not deterred by all of that BS coming from the press and the liberals.

I’ll take this kind of leadership over a nice guy that can make eloquent speeches. I like his George Patton style. "There are those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who say "what happened?"

Donald Trump is a guy who makes things happen. He makes them happen for America First!

Logic and common sense, what a strange idea!!!!

I am very proud to proclaim, he is my President.

John Porter

Interesting read. Obviously I would have left out the shots at the other party.

I think people need to start asking themselves questions before making decisions.

Who cares what is said in a tweet? Tweets don't set law or policy.

Who cares if he rips a reporter? That reporter is doing just fine and is getting high fives after the camera goes off.

Who cares if he is a self promoter? What politician isn't?

Who cares if he attacks someone or talks about someone in glowing terms? If you know anything about Trump, he uses those tactics to disarm his opponents.

Who cares if he is a pompous ass? I say again, most politicians are, especially leadership.

I focus on what someone does, not says. Talk is cheap. Actions actually say something.

I was not a fan of Trump before the election. I thought everything was too much about Trump and not enough about anything else. But since he has been President, I've seen his actions speak to a lot of things that have nothing to do with Trump, but clearly do have something to do with this country. He is all the irritating things above and more, I'm sure. But it certainly seems like he loves the country and is doing a much better job than I would have ever guessed. Again, based on actions, not words.

Honestly watch him at the COVID-19 daily briefings and he is definitely in charge and knowledgeable with everything going on. If not, he knows exactly who to turn to and allows them to speak. Nobody is perfect, obviously, and certainly not Trump. But he's spent maybe hundreds of hours and uncountable questions from reporters during this crisis. I can't think of a President that would come close to doing that.

So ask yourself what you think of his actions and spend a little less time on parsing the words and pompous self promotion. Maybe if you could actually get down to an honest policy debate, you might find he isn't the Hitler you thought he was.

 

[eager2own]

Alright, I'll cry uncle again. Can the lot of you not limit this discussion to off-topic threads?

The one common ground you seem to have is thinking the rest of us come to this forum for political discourse. We DO NOT. I'm not trying to stifle your discussion or saying it is less important than talking about door handles or color options on the MME, but please keep it on the off-topic thread.
Threads like this one, which was supposed to be for those who want to know about or discuss postponement of NA production, has gone off the rails for page after page of political diatribes -- on both sides. And, again, if that's what you want, have at it on the appropriate thread. However, as others have pointed out, this forum is really becoming insufferable for those of us wanting to discuss the MME, which I thought was the stated purpose of the forum.

 

[pbojanoski]

Alright, I'll cry uncle again. Can the lot of you not limit this discussion to off-topic threads?

The one common ground you seem to have is thinking the rest of us come to this forum for political discourse. We DO NOT. I'm not trying to stifle your discussion or saying it is less important than talking about door handles or color options on the MME, but please keep it on the off-topic thread.
Threads like this one, which was supposed to be for those who want to know about or discuss postponement of NA production, has gone off the rails for page after page of political diatribes -- on both sides. And, again, if that's what you want, have at it on the appropriate thread. However, as others have pointed out, this forum is really becoming insufferable for those of us wanting to discuss the MME, which I thought was the stated purpose of the forum.

Actually, this is an "off topic" thread.

 

[eager2own]

Actually, this is an "off topic" thread.

I can admit when wrong and apologize... although I do wish it would stay on stated topic of Ford production delay. And I think it was originally under the General Mach E topics, which is why I was following it.
But, you are correct that it is now off-topic, and I can ignore it and leave you all to it.

 

[Ken7]

Interesting read. Obviously I would have left out the shots at the other party.

I think people need to start asking themselves questions before making decisions.

Who cares what is said in a tweet? Tweets don't set law or policy.

Who cares if he rips a reporter? That reporter is doing just fine and is getting high fives after the camera goes off.

Who cares if he is a self promoter? What politician isn't?

Who cares if he attacks someone or talks about someone in glowing terms? If you know anything about Trump, he uses those tactics to disarm his opponents.

Who cares if he is a pompous ass? I say again, most politicians are, especially leadership.

I focus on what someone does, not says. Talk is cheap. Actions actually say something.

I was not a fan of Trump before the election. I thought everything was too much about Trump and not enough about anything else. But since he has been President, I've seen his actions speak to a lot of things that have nothing to do with Trump, but clearly do have something to do with this country. He is all the irritating things above and more, I'm sure. But it certainly seems like he loves the country and is doing a much better job than I would have ever guessed. Again, based on actions, not words.

Honestly watch him at the COVID-19 daily briefings and he is definitely in charge and knowledgeable with everything going on. If not, he knows exactly who to turn to and allows them to speak. Nobody is perfect, obviously, and certainly not Trump. But he's spent maybe hundreds of hours and uncountable questions from reporters during this crisis. I can't think of a President that would come close to doing that.

So ask yourself what you think of his actions and spend a little less time on parsing the words and pompous self promotion. Maybe if you could actually get down to an honest policy debate, you might find he isn't the Hitler you thought he was.

Couldn’t agree more.

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