Infant stuck inside the car - dead 12V battery

[rcechinel]

Lol, only now I noticed. PROsecution.

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[Jimrpa]

Lol, only now I noticed. PROsecution.

Regardless, I hardly think there is a “crime” here, by any stretch of the imagination. As I’ve said many times, if there is an infant in obvious distress in a car, that vehicle WILL be quickly opened - rock, brick, tire iron, PAAK. It doesn’t matter. Ford engineers don’t go to work every day and meet in the Thunderbird conference room, rubbing their hands together and saying “what can we do to cause the greatest, most sensational suffering for our customers today?”

 

[Mache_Nor]

Just want to chime in to defend the OP. It’s strange to me that people go to the mental gymnastics of defending Ford in this and say it’s just the users having to understand it (“oh it’s low power, but not enough low power so you have to use an alternative method to the emergency method because you as a user wouldn’t get the vision from Ford”). Under no circumstance should there be any sort of reason why a door can’t be opened. Im completely shocked by some people here. Do you say to people that has been subject for violence in close relations that it was their fault? Because it’s as stupid as that when you defend Ford on this.

 

[Sikkun]

Regardless, I hardly think there is a “crime” here, by any stretch of the imagination. As I’ve said many times, if there is an infant in obvious distress in a car, that vehicle WILL be quickly opened - rock, brick, tire iron, PAAK. It doesn’t matter. Ford engineers don’t go to work every day and meet in the Thunderbird conference room, rubbing their hands together and saying “what can we do to cause the greatest, most sensational suffering for our customers today?”

Internet people think so can sue for anything. Which that part is probably true.

But you can’t win for everything; or everyone on Reddit would be a billionaire based on how often they claim something is a slam dunk lawsuit anyone would take for free.

 

[PhuhQ]

Regardless, I hardly think there is a “crime” here, by any stretch of the imagination. As I’ve said many times, if there is an infant in obvious distress in a car, that vehicle WILL be quickly opened - rock, brick, tire iron, PAAK. It doesn’t matter. Ford engineers don’t go to work every day and meet in the Thunderbird conference room, rubbing their hands together and saying “what can we do to cause the greatest, most sensational suffering for our customers today?”

Pretty audacious thing to say but I'd imagine if your loved ones/kids were 3 minutes away from dying like mine you would think differently. This car has a serious design flaw regarding the doors and the notion that Ford shouldn't be held responsible is absurd. Most tire irons are in the car itself, and in my case PAAK didn't work so the idea that I can just find a brick or rock to break the window is crazy talk.

 

[Jimrpa]

Pretty audacious thing to say but I'd imagine if your loved ones/kids were 3 minutes away from dying like mine you would think differently. This car has a serious design flaw regarding the doors and the notion that Ford shouldn't be held responsible is absurd. Most tire irons are in the car itself, and in my case PAAK didn't work so the idea that I can just find a brick or rock to break the window is crazy talk.

All I can say is that, based on my PERSONAL experience knowing some Ford engineers VERY well, I can assure you that, by and large, we aren’t talking about a lair of supervillains trying to figure out the most horrible ways to use autos to kill your loved ones. Believe it or not, some of these ford engineers actually have loved ones that are riding in the same vehicles we have. If you honestly believe your car has been deliberately designed to harm your loved ones, do what I would do and get rid of it.

 

[ipca204]

Pretty audacious thing to say but I'd imagine if your loved ones/kids were 3 minutes away from dying like mine you would think differently. This car has a serious design flaw regarding the doors and the notion that Ford shouldn't be held responsible is absurd. Most tire irons are in the car itself, and in my case PAAK didn't work so the idea that I can just find a brick or rock to break the window is crazy talk.

"3 minutes from dying"......really??? I am not defending Ford, but think you may be exaggerating a wee bit here...

 

[rcechinel]

"3 minutes from dying"......really??? I am not defending Ford, but think you may be exaggerating a wee bit here...

What does it matter?

 

[ipca204]

What does it matter?

details matter in an investigation....lol

 

[Jimrpa]

details matter in an investigation....lol

And in court testimony.

 

[Only1bemp]

In a nutshell Ford should have provisions to open a door with a mechanical override in these rare situations.

 

[PhuhQ]

"3 minutes from dying"......really??? I am not defending Ford, but think you may be exaggerating a wee bit here...

Well, if you are so skeptical come to NC in June when the outside temp is around 97 around 11am and sit in the car with all windows up and doors close and see how long you last. The fire department temp my car at 120 degrees and if you must know more a 1 and 3 year old cannot regulate body temperature as well as adults so you do the math. I do not think the fire department would exaggerate when saying 3 minutes longer inside the car and death was highly likely.

But feel free to contact the Clayton Fire Department and confirm your skepticism.

 

[Jimrpa]

Well, if you are so skeptical come to NC in June when the outside temp is around 97 around 11am and sit in the car with all windows up and doors close and see how long you last. The fire department temp my car at 120 degrees and if you must know more a 1 and 3 year old cannot regulate body temperature as well as adults so you do the math. I do not think the fire department would exaggerate when saying 3 minutes longer inside the car and death was highly likely.

But feel free to contact the Clayton Fire Department and confirm your skepticism.

I’m glad they got your vehicle opened. It looks like they used the “break a window” technique, which I advocate when nothing else is available. Note also that mechanical systems can fail.

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