Misadventures and a bricked car

[rreddy3]

Thank you Robb.

I've looked through Ford Pass on the phone again, and through the various taps under my account on Ford.com and can't find the LVB SOC. They are tellimg me the car's state of health is fine, no issues, etc, and that life is generally peachy keen. I confess I have not yet tried to sort through the various screens and selectable tabs on the in car computer to see if I can find LVB SOC.

Is LVB SOC discoverable anywhere other than via an OBD scanner?

Thanks all

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[Babbit]

Thank you Robb.

I've looked through Ford Pass on the phone again, and through the various taps under my account on Ford.com and can't find the LVB SOC. They are tellimg me the car's state of health is fine, no issues, etc, and that life is generally peachy keen. I confess I have not yet tried to sort through the various screens and selectable tabs on the in car computer to see if I can find LVB SOC.

Is LVB SOC discoverable anywhere other than via an OBD scanner?

Thanks all

If you login to your www.ford.com account and go:

Ford Account Dashboard | Ford Owner Support

You will see the charge level %

 

[Mach-Lee]

I don't think it matters that much. 2 hours should be enough to fully charge the 12V battery, and L1 and L2 will ake much longer than that. I measure that that charge current drops to less than 1A after 1 hour. The 12V battery charges anytime the car is 'on': driving or while the HV battery is charging.

Charging 110V L1 is not only slower, it is also less energy efficient than L2. The energy loss in the charger is over 12%. at slow rates. The faster, the lower the loss.

Two hours will usually get it up to 80-90%, but not fully charged. The last 10% or so is extremely slow due to charging kinetics (less than 1 amp for many hours). If the battery is cold (winter), it will take even longer.

I also want to make sure you're aware of the 24-PU0121-FTDI-FX Update rolling out which improved 12V management. It should't get below 45% after that update, and drains from key fobs and welcome lighting were reduced. The battery is recharged sooner and seems to be kept at a higher state of charge. It's still not perfect and you will see the 2 hr drain after key-off, but it's an improvement. Hopefully you get it soon. I've informed Ford of ALL the 12V flaws, they know.

 

[rreddy3]

Thank you, I see that.

There are three 'boxes' under the VIN: Tire pressure; charge level, and; est. distance. At this moment mine read: good; 94%, and; 199 miles.

The car is on it's Ford travel charger with 110 pigtail and the FP app on the phone tells me charge level is 74% and range is est. 199 miles.

So, my take away is that the charge level shown on Ford.com under Ford Account Dashboard, Ford Owner Support, which in turn was the page that opened when I clicked on ' (name's) Account', is the LVB SOC and the charge level on the FP app is the HVB SOC.

Presuming my understanding of this information is correct, it's good to know. I do think Ford could be a little better in explaining all this to new owners. Frankly, without the Forum, I suspect a lot of us would be SOL on SOC and everything else.

thanks again ... and while typing this and flipping between screens and devices, I see both the Ford.com and FP concur that the est range has crept up to 200 miles!

thanks again,

 

[rreddy3]

Two hours will usually get it up to 80-90%, but not fully charged. The last 10% or so is extremely slow due to charging kinetics (less than 1 amp for many hours). If the battery is cold (winter), it will take even longer.

I also want to make sure you're aware of the 24-PU0121-FTDI-FX Update rolling out which improved 12V management. It should't get below 45% after that update, and drains from key fobs and welcome lighting were reduced. The battery is recharged sooner and seems to be kept at a higher state of charge. It's still not perfect and you will see the 2 hr drain after key-off, but it's an improvement. Hopefully you get it soon. I've informed Ford of ALL the 12V flaws, they know.

Thank you Lee.

The last update I am aware of came across on April 4. The FP app states it is 23-PU1113-UNX-DC.

It has bland accompanying language that doesn't really tell you much of anything.

I have a suspicion my car is pretty far behind in updates but apart from some of the methods discussed elsewhere in the Forum and requiring somewhat pricy electronic devices I don't know how to force feed updates to the car. I suppose I could go to a dealer and whine a bit and see if they can force the car to make updates. The other option is just wait it out I suppose.

thanks again to a very helpful, supportive group. Ford should be thankful this group exists.

Inspite of some of the weird stuff involved with these cars, I do love the car. I think it's great looking and a hoot to drive!

 

[trivalent]

You're right, bricked is an exaggeration ... "temporarily bricked" ?

How about "immobilized"?

 

[RobbertPatrison]

Two hours will usually get it up to 80-90%, but not fully charged. The last 10% or so is extremely slow due to charging kinetics (less than 1 amp for many hours). If the battery is cold (winter), it will take even longer.

I also want to make sure you're aware of the 24-PU0121-FTDI-FX Update rolling out which improved 12V management. It should't get below 45% after that update, and drains from key fobs and welcome lighting were reduced. The battery is recharged sooner and seems to be kept at a higher state of charge. It's still not perfect and you will see the 2 hr drain after key-off, but it's an improvement. Hopefully you get it soon. I've informed Ford of ALL the 12V flaws, they know.

Thank you Lee, as always thoughtful and useful response.

I have the update and am observing the MME's behavior. It is good that it doesn't let the charge sink very low anymore. Subjectively I think it got slightly better, though I still see the 'yoyo': drain each time locking the car it doesn't go to sleep, and then it needs to work hard to charge the drained energy back up again. I park the car at 90%, and come back after 8 hours it's 74%.
Interestingly, it goes to sleep immediately after charging ends, as the 12V SoC stays high. So that event is handled differently. Regular stopping and locking the car is followed by a solid 30 minutes of insomnia.

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