Rivian Phone As A Key Major Outage

[azerik]

The situation would be PAAK breaking on your phone due to a bad update or something while being parked in a no cell area. Or let’s say you’re out for a hike in a remote area and your phone gets smashed.

Then you're in the Door code and emergency start code situation. (hopefully you remember your code(s))

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[ChasingCoral]

He's talking about the cellular connection in the car. No easy way to shut that off without pulling fuses to the TCU, and that might generate an error and not let PAAK or passcode work. Might be worth trying...

Sure there is: drive out in the middle of Everglades National Park. Worked for me.

There's an entire discussion on our discovery that in the early days PaaK seemed to require periodic connection via cell phone to operate:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/paak-seems-to-require-cellular-service.4231/
I learned this when spending a full day in the Everglades with no cell signal -- and no PaaK.

The good news is Ford seems to have fixed that issue. On my recent trip across country and back pulling a trailer behind our Lightning we spent lots of time in no-cell zones. Despite that, PaaK continued to work just fine in the Lightning. I can only hope Ford implemented the same fixes in the Mach E.

 

[i8iridium]

Sure there is: drive out in the middle of Everglades National Park. Worked for me.

There's an entire discussion on our discovery that in the early days PaaK seemed to require periodic connection via cell phone to operate:
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/paak-seems-to-require-cellular-service.4231/
I learned this when spending a full day in the Everglades with no cell signal -- and no PaaK.

The good news is Ford seems to have fixed that issue. On my recent trip across country and back pulling a trailer behind our Lightning we spent lots of time in no-cell zones. Despite that, PaaK continued to work just fine in the Lightning. I can only hope Ford implemented the same fixes in the Mach E.

I've got a few Basement 2 and 3 level parking garages I can try out in the city. I'm sure I won't get a signal down there. I think the question is will the backup code definitively work without cell signal. Were you able to try that out?

 

[notaek]

If companies would just adopt Apple Carkey, this wouldn't be an issue. It even works when your phone is dead!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211234

 

[ChasingCoral]

I've got a few Basement 2 and 3 level parking garages I can try out in the city. I'm sure I won't get a signal down there. I think the question is will the backup code definitively work without cell signal. Were you able to try that out?

Yes, but not by choice. Fortunately the door code on the B-pillar and the backup start code worked fine. You can see the details in that thread link I posted.

If companies would just adopt Apple Carkey, this wouldn't be an issue. It even works when your phone is dead!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211234

Remember that the Mach E was in production before Apple came out with this. Besides, Apple Carkey is no panacea either. It's another source of forced obsolescence as NFC is replaced by UWB:
https://www.imore.com/phones/ios-16...y-support-for-older-iphones-and-apple-watches

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