What is the point of BlueCruise?

[ChrisO]

That would ruin my ankle weight hack!

This comment is one of the reasons I say that we live in the most dangerous time for this technology.

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[raijinmach]

That's how I use it. I really wouldn't trust it in busy traffic, especially not automatic lane changing.

so that's why I don't understand why people would buy an annual subscription to be precise. I would probably buy it for a month when I'm expected to make a super long trip like that

 

[SonicBlue]

This comment is one of the reasons I say that we live in the most dangerous time for this technology.

This post receives +10 virtue signaling points. And -10 common sense points. The LC/ACC functionality is exactly the same. The eye nanny operates exactly the same.

 

[ChrisO]

This post receives +10 virtue signaling points. And -10 common sense points. The LC/ACC functionality is exactly the same. The eye nanny operates exactly the same.

It is the fact that people are willing to "hack" safety measures is one of the reasons why this is dangerous. You might do this "responsibly", but others won't.

Case in point the idiot that years ago did the same thing with his Tesla and then got in the back seat.

 

[moritzes]

It makes sense for super long trips with barely any any cars but since I live in the city with very busy highways, I can't ever truly relax while driving

I think this is right, and that personal experience explains people's divergent and sometimes even hostile view of the technology. With the right use case, it really is fantastic, and people who have had that experience are going to be fans. It just feels great to get to the end of a long drive and feel so much more relaxed than you have on the same drive previously. But if you've never had that experience, then meh, whatever.

 

[RickMachE]

Put an ankle weight on the steering wheel with ACC and lane centering and you’ve got bootleg blue cruise for free 99….

Anyone who is stupid enough to hang a weight on their steering wheel should not have a license. What happens when you have to aggressively steering and you have a weight tied to the wheel?

 

[celestial_knight]

By the end of this year GM will have 1.2M miles of mapped roads, including local roads, and they work on 2 lane highways as well as when towing. Ford has 130k miles mapped, way behind.

GM system is far more advanced:

1) Includes hands free towing
2) Moves over for merging traffic
3) Works on interchanges
4) Moves over for disabled vehicles
5) Does not drop hands free for on/off ramps (my Mach E does this all the time)
6) Will soon link automatic lane changes to navigation
7) Will soon have hands on steering, unmapped roads
8) Already works hands free on 2 lane highways and local 2 lane roads (I have used it on local roads with 35-45mph speed limits)
9) Has much better messages as to why it drops in certain areas (basically Ford has nothing, it just says take control)
10) Shows SuperCruise capable roads on the native Google maps display

Just as an example, if I go from Phoenix to Vegas, SuperCrusie works on 90% of the trip, BlueCruise works on 25%.

I care far more about local road lane keeping; I’ve been spoiled experiencing the Ioniq 5 years ago, it and Ford help you drive everywhere and anywhere

indeed, this is the whole reason for the OP’s post. in between acc stopping and starting for you, and lane centering steering for you, it practically drives itself already, without the need for full FSD

sure we can wait for Gm to map the entire US road network like waymo, and it will eventually happen, but I have no time to waste

Here you are blabbing about GM’s vaporware while Hyundai (and Tesla, and now Ford) have had years of incredible lane centering, helping on every single drive.

I’ve saved so much time and energy - local lane centering is the top feature I look for in a car, I rule out whole conglomerates because of it (looking at you GM), and countries; I’d even be hesitant to buy a current porsche

 

[celestial_knight]

I care far more about local road lane keeping; I’ve been spoiled experiencing the Ioniq 5 years ago, it and Ford help you drive everywhere and anywhere

indeed, this is the whole reason for the OP’s post. in between acc stopping and starting for you, and lane centering steering for you, it practically drives itself already, without the need for full FSD

sure we can wait for Gm to map the entire US road network like waymo, and it will eventually happen, but I have no time to waste

Here you are blabbing about GM’s vaporware while Hyundai (and Tesla, and now Ford) have had years of incredible lane centering, helping on every single drive.

I’ve saved so much time and energy - local lane centering is the top feature I look for in a car, I rule out whole conglomerates because of it (looking at you GM), and countries; I’d even be hesitant to buy a current porsche

Addendum:
1/. I actually do enjoy Blue Cruise 1.5 a lot. I can do a lot of other things while facing forward. it is still a slight step above the regular lane assist

2/. if the outer lane marking is missing on a local road, i.e. it just has the double yellow lines, hyundai and ford will be a lot more dubious, but they will certainly be better than Gm which is hopeless. in fairness, a lot of car companies are behind

 

[SonicBlue]

It is the fact that people are willing to "hack" safety measures is one of the reasons why this is dangerous. You might do this "responsibly", but others won't.

Case in point the idiot that years ago did the same thing with his Tesla and then got in the back seat.

That is not a “case in point.” Because it is not even a remotely similar case. The eye nanny makes such behavior impossible. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the tech.

 

[jav_eee]

Anyone who is stupid enough to hang a weight on their steering wheel should not have a license. What happens when you have to aggressively steering and you have a weight tied to the wheel?

maybe you’re picturing it wrong but a 1 pound ankle weight isn’t going to affect any of that any more than lane keep/centering would.

 

[Snakebitten]

The now common driver staring at their smartphone is a factor of 1000 X more a threat to road safety than someone thwarting Ford's hand on the wheel nanny with a simple constant torque hack. (assuming it's attached appropriately)
I personally haven't done it. I'm self trained to just apply a tiny momentary force with my fingers gently to the edge of the wheel.

 

[ChrisO]

That is not a “case in point.” Because it is not even a remotely similar case. The eye nanny makes such behavior impossible. I’m not sure you’re familiar with the tech.

I’m ver familiar with the technology.

Yes that guy was an extreme case but the point is what you might do just so you don’t have to hold the wheel another might do so they don’t have to pay attention at all.

The truth is that anything less than level 4 is asking the average driver to something that is nearly impossible. Be attentive to something they aren’t actively engaged in.

 

[jav_eee]

This comment is one of the reasons I say that we live in the most dangerous time for this technology.

Cell phones caused the most dangerous time (for driving). Every car that passed me today was driven by someone looking down at a phone. I’d argue that the technology we’re talking about in this thread, even with a little “hack” to save you from having to keep your thumb off the wheel, makes it a little safer.

 

[ChrisO]

Cell phones caused the most dangerous time (for driving). Every car that passed me today was driven by someone looking down at a phone. I’d argue that the technology we’re talking about in this thread, even with a little “hack” to save you from having to keep your thumb off the wheel, makes it a little safer.

I see your point. I guess the more we can encourage tech over people the better.

 

[SonicBlue]

Anyone who is stupid enough to hang a weight on their steering wheel should not have a license. What happens when you have to aggressively steering and you have a weight tied to the wheel?

You’re not understanding how this works. What you’re describing… that’s not it.

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