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My parents moved recently and I wanted to go help them get settled in and unpacked. This would mean a trip to Idaho from Texas and I did not feel like flying (lots of reasons, not the point, not gonna go into it), this meant a road trip. I haven't done one of those in a while so I decided to give it a go in my MME. This is roughly the route, about 32hrs on the road each direction. I left at 7am and would finish at just after midnight both days on a given direction of the trip.

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The trip included a mix of charging stations - Rivian, Tesla, Chargepoint, EVgo, etc - and generally I had no issues doing just 'plug-and-charge' using Ford's Blue Oval capabilities. I did however notice that the cost was starting to add up. Going from 15% to around 70% each time would cost almost $30 or more (with charging rates at or above $0.55/kwh or more - including at Tesla stations), meaning that with 12-14 stops along the way each direction electricity could start adding up quickly.

So instead I payed $13 and subscribed to Tesla's supercharger network for a month, and while I did pay a little up front, the charging rate cost dropped to $0.35/kwh and my cost to charge went WAY down... when Tesla's network was able to grab the connection before Ford's. Rather than averaging $25-$30 for a change it dropped to usually less than $20, and across half a dozen stops or more that adds up FAST and makes it very worthwhile purchase for trips like this.

To do this I had to add my MME to the Tesla app, which thankfully wasn't a big deal. Add your non-tesla to the tesla app, setup a billing detail, then hit the 3-bars 'menu' button in the top right and select 'charge your other EV' on the next screen. It will locate where you're at, then you tell it to activate the station you're parked next to (1A, 2B, etc) and THEN you plug in after you tell it to activate that port. Teeny bit less convenient for a lot of savings.

The ability to GET that connection to Tesla was a little frustrating, out of 29 total stops it only successfully grabbed about 6, which probably cost me another almost $200 in charging, since I paid for the Tesla sub before the trip and didn't realize until I was on the way back that Ford's billing was snatching up my charging attempts before Tesla's was unless I explicitly forced it through Tesla's app.

This makes me really tempted to turn off my Blue Oval connectivity and either pay individually at a charger if I stop at a non-Tesla one, or just stick to Tesla chargers completely. As it is I only picked up the Tesla sub for one month on purpose because of this long trip, my range is enough to get me all over my home region and back to my lvl2 home charger without issue.

The Blue Oval network connectivity may be 'Free' but they sure ding the hell out of your wallet whenever you use it.

Overall the trip was great, absolutely loved my MME for the ride and had zero issues with it despite temps ranging from 26 through 90F, mountains, etc.
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This makes me really tempted to turn off my Blue Oval connectivity and either pay individually at a charger if I stop at a non-Tesla one, or just stick to Tesla chargers completely.
I turn on my Tesla account whenever I'm going on a road trip. It pays for itself in two charges of the Mach E or one of the Lighting. I also immediately turn off the Tesla account. It will stay active for a month and you don't have to remember to turn it off later.

You also don't have to turn off all connectivity. Just simply turn off Plug & Charge or be really careful to make sure the charge session activates in the Tesla app.
 
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You also don't have to turn off all connectivity. Just simply turn off Plug & Charge or be really careful to make sure the charge session activates in the Tesla app.
Good to know, thanks! I didn't know 'plug and charge' was it's own setting but after you mentioned it I turned it off just now. šŸ‘
 

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This makes me really tempted to turn off my Blue Oval connectivity and either pay individually at a charger if I stop at a non-Tesla one, or just stick to Tesla chargers completely. As it is I only picked up the Tesla sub for one month on purpose because of this long trip, my range is enough to get me all over my home region and back to my lvl2 home charger without issue.

The Blue Oval network connectivity may be 'Free' but they sure ding the hell out of your wallet whenever you use it.

Overall the trip was great, absolutely loved my MME for the ride and had zero issues with it despite temps ranging from 26 through 90F, mountains, etc.

It is unfortunate that you didn't read more threads here before your trip, you would have saved money and aggravation. This is discussed often.

1) Turn off Plug and Charge.

2) Sign up for Tesla or EA or both the morning of your trip, then immediately downgrade which takes effect in 30 days. EA is $7 for a 25% discount. Tesla is also a discount, not a fixed 35 cents.

3) Open EA or Tesla app, when it says to plug in, plug in.

4) If you want to use any other network, simply open FordPass and activate via the app.

Ford does not ding you. They just don't offer a discount.

Also note that Tesla includes sales tax in the prices they show in their app. EA does not.
 

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Jus a note that after my 1st 2K road-trip to and from Orlando to Dallas/Austin/Houston, Tesla DCFCSs are the only chargers I use, for all the reasons mentioned here, and more.

Now 9 roadtrips later, including several to and from Canada to Orlando, Tesla DCFCs reign supreme.

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-38K, in 1 yr, 7 mos.
-original battery and tires going strong.
 


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My parents moved recently and I wanted to go help them get settled in and unpacked. This would mean a trip to Idaho from Texas and I did not feel like flying (lots of reasons, not the point, not gonna go into it), this meant a road trip. I haven't done one of those in a while so I decided to give it a go in my MME. This is roughly the route, about 32hrs on the road each direction. I left at 7am and would finish at just after midnight both days on a given direction of the trip.

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The trip included a mix of charging stations - Rivian, Tesla, Chargepoint, EVgo, etc - and generally I had no issues doing just 'plug-and-charge' using Ford's Blue Oval capabilities. I did however notice that the cost was starting to add up. Going from 15% to around 70% each time would cost almost $30 or more (with charging rates at or above $0.55/kwh or more - including at Tesla stations), meaning that with 12-14 stops along the way each direction electricity could start adding up quickly.

So instead I payed $13 and subscribed to Tesla's supercharger network for a month, and while I did pay a little up front, the charging rate cost dropped to $0.35/kwh and my cost to charge went WAY down... when Tesla's network was able to grab the connection before Ford's. Rather than averaging $25-$30 for a change it dropped to usually less than $20, and across half a dozen stops or more that adds up FAST and makes it very worthwhile purchase for trips like this.

To do this I had to add my MME to the Tesla app, which thankfully wasn't a big deal. Add your non-tesla to the tesla app, setup a billing detail, then hit the 3-bars 'menu' button in the top right and select 'charge your other EV' on the next screen. It will locate where you're at, then you tell it to activate the station you're parked next to (1A, 2B, etc) and THEN you plug in after you tell it to activate that port. Teeny bit less convenient for a lot of savings.

The ability to GET that connection to Tesla was a little frustrating, out of 29 total stops it only successfully grabbed about 6, which probably cost me another almost $200 in charging, since I paid for the Tesla sub before the trip and didn't realize until I was on the way back that Ford's billing was snatching up my charging attempts before Tesla's was unless I explicitly forced it through Tesla's app.

This makes me really tempted to turn off my Blue Oval connectivity and either pay individually at a charger if I stop at a non-Tesla one, or just stick to Tesla chargers completely. As it is I only picked up the Tesla sub for one month on purpose because of this long trip, my range is enough to get me all over my home region and back to my lvl2 home charger without issue.

The Blue Oval network connectivity may be 'Free' but they sure ding the hell out of your wallet whenever you use it.

Overall the trip was great, absolutely loved my MME for the ride and had zero issues with it despite temps ranging from 26 through 90F, mountains, etc.
You learned the hard and expensive way- the simple solution is to turn off Plug and Charge and ONLY use the Tesla or EA (if you subscribe to both) apps to initiate charging and thus get their discounts. And prioritize Tesla Superchargers and only use others if necessary.
 
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You learned the hard and expensive way- the simple solution is to turn off Plug and Charge and ONLY use the Tesla or EA (if you subscribe to both) apps to initiate charging and thus get their discounts. And prioritize Tesla Superchargers and only use others if necessary.
Jus a note that after my 1st 2K road-trip to and from Orlando to Dallas/Austin/Houston, Tesla DCFCSs are the only chargers I use, for all the reasons mentioned here, and more.

Now 9 roadtrips later, including several to and from Canada to Orlando, Tesla DCFCs reign supreme.

Side notes;
-38K, in 1 yr, 7 mos.
-original battery and tires going strong.
Of all the charger networks I interacted with, Rivian was the only one I didn't like. EA, Chargepoint, etc all worked well and were just as fast for me as the others, assuming I did my homework before arrival and picked one that had DC fast charging.. But for simplicity sake (not needing a different app and billing entry for each one) I'll likely stick with Tesla for just how widespread they are. The others are definitely good for being in a pinch if needed.
 

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I'd like to know the actual route you took to get from Austin to New Mexico. Thank you.
 
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I'd like to know the actual route you took to get from Austin to New Mexico. Thank you.

My origin point was near Bastrop - so I took:
- 95 north to Temple (charged at Bucees),
- 35 North, then 35W to Fort Worth,
- 81/287 towards Bowie
- stayed on 287 all the way to Amarillo
- West Loop 335 north around amarillo
- RR 1061 to 385
- 385 to Hartley where 87 merges in
- 87 all the way out to Clayton, NM
 

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Of all the charger networks I interacted with, Rivian was the only one I didn't like. EA, Chargepoint, etc all worked well and were just as fast for me as the others, assuming I did my homework before arrival and picked one that had DC fast charging.. But for simplicity sake (not needing a different app and billing entry for each one) I'll likely stick with Tesla for just how widespread they are. The others are definitely good for being in a pinch if needed.
Pretty much went through the same learning curve as you on a 6,000 mile trip last fall.
 

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I just did Houston to New Orleans and back. I only charged at Tesla and signed up for 1 month of their plan to reduce the prices.

The first stop however, Tesla's app wasn't working due to the AWS outage stuff (or some other similarly timed event, but the app was down according to downdetector). Ford plug and charge saved me here.

After that, following the prompts in the Tesla app had Tesla picking up all charging sessions and not Ford, even with plug and charge turned on.

The Tesla charging worked way better for me than the EA places I have used in the past. EA usually takes me a couple tries to find a working charger. They also usually only have 4 chargers on the routes I travel, so if 2 are down there is a high probability of being stuck waiting for a charger.
 

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I want to add a note about turning off plug and charge. I had trouble with it actually turning off when I only turned it off in the app.

Plug and charge was still stealing some of my Tesla charges whenever the Tesla charger had a hiccup. If the Tesla charger has a hiccup it may restart the charging in that first 15 seconds and suddenly it's going through Ford plug-and charge - seems like what you experienced.

But to be sure plug and charge is turned off completely - after you turn it off in the Ford app. Go to ford dot com on a web browser, login there and turn off plug and charge from the Web. I also deleted my credit card from plug and charge during that process. Then even if the charger has a hiccup it shouldn't redirect through Ford plug and charge.

It's possible that won't be an issue anymore with recent updates to the Ford pass now Ford app.

But as already mentioned, make sure you are starting the charge in the Tesla (or EA) app. First press charge in the app and then plug in the charging cable. Don't plug the charging cable into your car until the app says it - and you should get their discounted rate.
 
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Is the option to turn off P&C still on ford. com?
Good question, I'm not seeing the "plug and charge" on and off switch in the new version Ford app or at Ford com.

I went there just now to look for it, and only found Blue Oval Charge Network under Connected Services and went through the steps to turn it on since it hasn't been on in a while.

Then I went back to the app (the new version Ford app) and cancelled Blue Oval Network.

But no specific button to say hey turn off plug and charge right now looks like you have to cancel Blue Oval Network - which is no more extra steps then what the plug in charge switch used to be.

Anyway my default credit card is on file for when I do want to turn it back on.

About 8 months ago, I had turned off the plug and charge button in the old fordpass app. It would still plug and charge in certain situations since my default payment was still on file, and plug and charge was still "on" at Ford dot com.

And if I tapped plug and charge slider switch Off or On in the Ford Pass app it wouldn't move so it showed me as "off" in the Ford Pass app but was "On" at Ford dot com.

This time I turned on Blue Oval Network at Ford dot com but I was able to turn it off at the Ford app and it seems to be fine that way. I checked both areas and it's asking for a default credit card if I want to start it up again. So both sides are communicating equally.
 

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I’v left P&C on since I found it over 4 years ago. I’ve used memberships in EA and Tesla many times when road tripping. I think, maybe once or twice, P&C overrode the app membership rate. I leave it on for when I’m only making a short trip and need one charge. I also keep the credit card on file with BOCN for when I’m somewhere that I don’t want to use a Tesla or EA charger because, .. reasons.
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