Are the Eibach proEV springs|W/ mag ride worth it on the GTPE?

[greatSpacer]

I've been looking to make my car handle better. I read up on these, but they seem to only get a 1' drop which to me doesn't seem worth it to mess with the magride. Would bigger tires and sway bars do the job?

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[phidauex]

It probably depends on what you mean when you want better handling, but the most popular handling mod here has been the Eibach sway bars. Reasonable price, better bushings for more suspension articulation, and a few stiffness settings ranging from similar to the GTPE up to quite a bit stiffer. I know some people have dropped them on lowering springs, but you run into problems with the Magneride bump stops being too long and not easy to access to cut down (like you would normally do when dropping a car). I don't think it is generally recommended, but I'm sure some people will chime in with more recent experiences.

Tire choice is of course going to matter as well, but that is a lot more personal/weather of a choice.

 

[greatSpacer]

It probably depends on what you mean when you want better handling, but the most popular handling mod here has been the Eibach sway bars. Reasonable price, better bushings for more suspension articulation, and a few stiffness settings ranging from similar to the GTPE up to quite a bit stiffer. I know some people have dropped them on lowering springs, but you run into problems with the Magneride bump stops being too long and not easy to access to cut down (like you would normally do when dropping a car). I don't think it is generally recommended, but I'm sure some people will chime in with more recent experiences.

Tire choice is of course going to matter as well, but that is a lot more personal/weather of a choice.

Would you mind linking the sway bars that fit the GTPE? I could only find the ones for the GT unless those work on the GTPE as welI. I currently have the stock summer tires on now. Not too sure about which ones to swap to. I just want better performance thats my main goal.

 

[markboris]

The Eibach anti-roll sway bars fit every Mach-E trim. I’ve installed them on every one. Probably 15-20 sets. Best mod you can do for the car to make it handle better. https://eibach.com/product/E40-35-0...gdfymj712AMw1Q4pIiNnMb7KcIscivPFGiJXCcswJrJfg

I’ve also installed Eibach’s non-GT, GT and GT with Magneride springs all on a GTPE. Lowering the car is not a good thing with Magneride because as Sam said above you can’t change the bump stops in the front and it bottoms out regularly. I just recently installed OEM Rally lift springs on two GTPE’s and the car rides much better with no perceptible loss in handling. Both have the Eibach sway bars though.

 

[greatSpacer]

The Eibach anti-roll sway bars fit every Mach-E trim. I’ve installed them on every one. Probably 15-20 sets. Best mod you can do for the car to make it handle better. https://eibach.com/product/E40-35-0...gdfymj712AMw1Q4pIiNnMb7KcIscivPFGiJXCcswJrJfg

I’ve also installed Eibach’s non-GT, GT and GT with Magneride springs all on a GTPE. Lowering the car is not a good thing with Magneride because as Sam said above you can’t change the bump stops in the front and it bottoms out regularly. I just recently installed OEM Rally lift springs on two GTPE’s and the car rides much better with no perceptible loss in handling. Both have the Eibach sway bars though.

Would you say the bars are easy for a DIY mechanic to install or should I take it to a shop?

 

[markboris]

Would you say the bars are easy for a DIY mechanic to install or should I take it to a shop?

I would not say they are easy but they are doable. The front bar can be a little challenging getting in and out with the motor and pumps that are very close to it. The rear bar is a bigger challenge. The car need to be quite high off the ground in the rear so you can get completely under it. The two top bolts on the body mounting brackets back there are a real pain to get to. You cannot see them at all which means they have to be removed/replaced by feel. If you are patient and have a good variety of tools you can do it. It will be easier if you have a second person helping you physically removing and replacing the bars.

 

[Bryan]

Hi, not really a DIY car guy but could you list me what I need to order for this upgrade? Would also like it to look a little more aggressive with tires out more.
I have a 2022 GTPE which I have had since new, currently 88K miles and still drives like new
Thanks

 

[markboris]

Hi, not really a DIY car guy but could you list me what I need to order for this upgrade? Would also like it to look a little more aggressive with tires out more.
I have a 2022 GTPE which I have had since new, currently 88K miles and still drives like new
Thanks

Bryan, what is your objective? You want to lower the ride hight on your car? You want the car the ride smoother? Deferent parts are required depending on what you want to change with your car. As far as the stance on your tires, we have to know what you are wanting to do with your car first.

 

[Bryan]

Both if possible, but as long as the lower ride does not change how it rides now I would be ok I find it rides

 

[Bryan]

Both if possible, but as long as the lower ride does not change how it rides now I would be ok I find it rides

I like the way it rides now is what I meant to say

 

[markboris]

Both if possible, but as long as the lower ride does not change how it rides now I would be ok I find it rides

Ok, so here is the scoop...

The GT has a suspension travel of 2" (1/2" less than a non-GT). GTPE (Magneride) have front struts with internal non-replaceable bumper stops and rear shocks while they are external bumper stops, not easy to replace. Lowering the suspension on a GTPE, the car will bottom out slightly more often when there are no passengers and a lot more often when there are.

That said, Eibach makes lowering springs specifically for the GTPE with a minimal amount of drop (barely over 1") and it will keep the ride you have now because the rear springs are linear and same spring rate as OEM. The only disadvantage is the car being a little lower will bottom out a bit more like I mentioned above. Part number for these Eibach GTPE lowering springs: E10-35-054-05-22

If you want a little smoother ride while lowering the car, Eibach's non-GT springs that are progressive in the rear will give you a better ride. However it will lower the car about 1 1/2", so a little more than the GTPE springs. I ran these springs for over 2 years in my '21 GTPE along with many others here because we wanted a little smoother ride. Part number for these springs: E10-35-054-05-22

You probably don't want a slight lift but if you are after the best riding Mach-E, then replacing your springs with the Ford OEM Rally springs, will give that to you. It will raise your car between 3/4" - 1". This is what I have gone with (along with others) on my '24 GTP. I did NOT notice any difference in handling as I had expected to. Austin, who also recently did this on his GTPE, didn't either.

No matter what springs you get or even if you didn't, you really should install Eibach's anti-roll sway bars. THIS will make the car handle much better than it does now. Part number E40-35-054-01-11

You mentioned that you wanted to bring your wheels/tires out a bit. I will assume you are keeping your GTPE wheels? If you lower the car with the GTPE springs, you should be ok bringing out the wheels. If you go with the non-GT springs then you will get some slight rubbing of the tread on the fender moldings but nothing terrible. Of course if you go with the Rally springs you can do whatever you want including getting much wider and or taller tires. As far as bringing them out, you would want 15mm spacers if you still still want them inset a bit, 20mm if you want a flush fit and 25mm if you want a slight poke. That said you have to make sure the back side of your wheel has cutouts deep enough to allow the lugs to clear. You can always drill holes in the back side. Eibach makes 20mm and 25mm spacers. There are other manufacturers that make them along with the 15mm size.

 

[Bryan]

Ok, so here is the scoop...

The GT has a suspension travel of 2" (1/2" less than a non-GT). GTPE (Magneride) have front struts with internal non-replaceable bumper stops and rear shocks while they are external bumper stops, not easy to replace. Lowering the suspension on a GTPE, the car will bottom out slightly more often when there are no passengers and a lot more often when there are.

That said, Eibach makes lowering springs specifically for the GTPE with a minimal amount of drop (barely over 1") and it will keep the ride you have now because the rear springs are linear and same spring rate as OEM. The only disadvantage is the car being a little lower will bottom out a bit more like I mentioned above. Part number for these Eibach GTPE lowering springs: E10-35-054-05-22

If you want a little smoother ride while lowering the car, Eibach's non-GT springs that are progressive in the rear will give you a better ride. However it will lower the car about 1 1/2", so a little more than the GTPE springs. I ran these springs for over 2 years in my '21 GTPE along with many others here because we wanted a little smoother ride. Part number for these springs: E10-35-054-05-22

You probably don't want a slight lift but if you are after the best riding Mach-E, then replacing your springs with the Ford OEM Rally springs, will give that to you. It will raise your car between 3/4" - 1". This is what I have gone with (along with others) on my '24 GTP. I did NOT notice any difference in handling as I had expected to. Austin, who also recently did this on his GTPE, didn't either.

No matter what springs you get or even if you didn't, you really should install Eibach's anti-roll sway bars. THIS will make the car handle much better than it does now. Part number E40-35-054-01-11

You mentioned that you wanted to bring your wheels/tires out a bit. I will assume you are keeping your GTPE wheels? If you lower the car with the GTPE springs, you should be ok bringing out the wheels. If you go with the non-GT springs then you will get some slight rubbing of the tread on the fender moldings but nothing terrible. Of course if you go with the Rally springs you can do whatever you want including getting much wider and or taller tires. As far as bringing them out, you would want 15mm spacers if you still still want them inset a bit, 20mm if you want a flush fit and 25mm if you want a slight poke. That said you have to make sure the back side of your wheel has cutouts deep enough to allow the lugs to clear. You can always drill holes in the back side. Eibach makes 20mm and 25mm spacers. There are other manufacturers that make them along with the 15mm size.

Thank you for all of this information, I think the GTPE lowering springs along with the anti roll sway bars would be best add the 20 mm spacers and I think I would be set.
Now to find someone to do it for me

 

[markboris]

Thank you for all of this information, I think the GTPE lowering springs along with the anti roll sway bars would be best add the 20 mm spacers and I think I would be set.
Now to find someone to do it for me

^^^^ I think you would like that setup for sure.

 

[highland58]

The Eibach anti-roll sway bars fit every Mach-E trim. I’ve installed them on every one. Probably 15-20 sets. Best mod you can do for the car to make it handle better. https://eibach.com/product/E40-35-0...gdfymj712AMw1Q4pIiNnMb7KcIscivPFGiJXCcswJrJfg

I’ve also installed Eibach’s non-GT, GT and GT with Magneride springs all on a GTPE. Lowering the car is not a good thing with Magneride because as Sam said above you can’t change the bump stops in the front and it bottoms out regularly. I just recently installed OEM Rally lift springs on two GTPE’s and the car rides much better with no perceptible loss in handling. Both have the Eibach sway bars though.

Hi Mark,

I have been thinking more about getting the Eibach sway bars for my Rally. The thing that holds me back is finding an installer that will be able to do it properly. I noticed at the link above that is says "excludes vehicles w/ magneride damping system", am I missing something?

 

[markboris]

Hi Mark,

I have been thinking more about getting the Eibach sway bars for my Rally. The thing that holds me back is finding an installer that will be able to do it properly. I noticed at the link above that is says "excludes vehicles w/ magneride damping system", am I missing something?

Eibach has not tested their bars on Mach-E's with Magneride so they can't verify it will work. However, both front and rear sway bars on every Mach-E trim are exactly the same shape and size with the exceptions of stiffness. I ran these bars on my '21 GTPE for several years and they have been on my '24 GTP for over a year. Not to mention I have installed these bars on MANY Magneride Mach-E's so yes, they fit and work very well.

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