Volvo XC40 Recharge

[HopefulAl]

Agreed that everyone wants a safety buffer on the bottom end. And that practical range limit will further erode the market for the XC40. But there's still significant potential market for a BEV relegated to an "around-home" vehicle, particularly if one has more than one vehicle (ICE) in the household. Especially for typical daily work commutes.

That's why it would be a perfectly acceptable choice for me. We have an Escape in our garage too. And rarely drive more than 50 miles in a day. So for 95% or our drives, the XC40 Recharge would be perfectly fine. Same reason that if we do buy a Mach-e, we'll just save the $5000 and get the SR battery (similar range as the XC40).

Excellent points. A shorter range car will do a great job for you. In my case, though, the Mach-E will be my short and long range car.

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[FredT]

Nope. Not WLTP. US site has 200+ miles. European site has 400 km WLTP.

 

[FredT]

First, have you ever seen a car manufacturer discuss range of a US spec car based on WLTP? Common sense dictates that they are giving an estimate based on US standards. The language on the US Volvo site I will guess is an oversight.

Second, as with Mach-E, there is no official EPA or WLTP testing. It's all estimates of what they expect. From the Volvo UK site:

"The battery has a nominal capacity of 78 kWh. A fully-charged battery gives you a projected range of ~250 miles* at mixed driving before you need to recharge.

* Range according to the realistic WLTP and EPA driving cycles under controlled conditions for a new vehicle. Real-world range may vary. Figures are based on preliminary target. Final vehicle certification pending."

Similarly the German site has 400 kilometers. So 400 kilometers WLTP for Europe, 250 miles WLTP for UK, 200 miles EPA for US.

 

[abr]

This is what I read on the Volvo US website also. They only mention estimated 200+ miles based on WLTP standard. No mention of estimated EPA standard at all. Like the MME, there has not been any testing of final product yet, just their estimate. You may believe it is an oversight, but I don't believe that is the case. That doesn't make it a bad car, but definitely a completely different range level than the MME or Y.

 

[FredT]

You may believe it is an oversight, but I don't believe that is the case.

Then how do you explain 250+ miles on the UK site. Or 400 km on the Germann site? Come on, common sense.

 

[jlauro]

First, have you ever seen a car manufacturer discuss range of a US spec car based on WLTP? Common sense dictates that they are giving an estimate based on US standards. The language on the US Volvo site I will guess is an oversight.

I see it from Volvo... That's pretty strong language with their all CAP font "*THIS IS NOT BASED ON EPA TESTING. 200-mile combined driving range rating. Based on EU WLTP testing under controlled conditions for a new vehicle." right on their FAQ. Maybe it's oversight, or maybe it's a later more accurate number after early estimates for Taycan range were found to be inaccurate, or maybe the 250 rating is city only. We might not know until it's on dealer lots...

 

[jlauro]

Then how do you explain 250+ miles on the UK site. Or 400 km on the Germann site? Come on, common sense.

How do you explain that https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/xc40-pure-electric has 402hp and https://www.volvocars.com/uk/cars/xc40-pure-electric has 408hp?

The more I think about it, I think the discrepancy is primarily because the 200 is more what is expected based on combined city/highway, and the 250 is more what is expected city only.

 

[abr]

Then how do you explain 250+ miles on the UK site. Or 400 km on the Germann site? Come on, common sense.

Because there are different legal rules to each country about what they can "promise / say."
The only thing you can do to compare is to compare each vehicle based on the mfr site in the same country. Look at Ford site in US vs. Volvo site in the US - apples to apples comparison.

 

[eager2own]

I have to assume the US site is in error. The international site states:

"A large 78 kWh battery with a projected range of over 400 km/200 miles*.
*Range is according to WLTP and EPA driving cycles and real-world range may vary. Figures are based on preliminary target. Final vehicle certification pending. "

Sites like InsideEVs.com have described it as:
"Its range is given as over 400 km (248.5 miles) on the WLTP test and more than 200 EPA-rated miles. "

This makes more sense.
The way some of you interpret the statements is that the vehicle has WLTP range of 400 km/200 mile, which makes no sense.

 

[FredT]

I have to assume the US site is in error. The international site states:

"A large 78 kWh battery with a projected range of over 400 km/200 miles*.
*Range is according to WLTP and EPA driving cycles and real-world range may vary. Figures are based on preliminary target. Final vehicle certification pending. "

Sites like InsideEVs.com have described it as:
"Its range is given as over 400 km (248.5 miles) on the WLTP test and more than 200 EPA-rated miles. "

This makes more sense.
The way some of you interpret the statements is that the vehicle has WLTP range of 400 km/200 mile, which makes no sense.

Exactly!! 400 km/250 miles WLTP does make sense.

 

[FredT]

Yes, definitely lower range than I'd like to see. I'm hoping that Volvo is being conservative and it will be better.

 

[Redundant]

New article about the XC40 Recharge.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/05/26/volvo-takes-us-on-a-detailed-tour-of-the-xc40-recharge/

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