Could Tesla’s Frunk issue on Model S be part of why Ford is careful with Frunk?

[ElectrifyCLT]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/30/22859717/tesla-model-3-s-recall-trunk-latch-failure-nhtsa

“The Model S recall is particularly concerning because the issue affects the front trunk, which could obstruct the driver’s view of the road if it flies open while driving. In the affected Model S cars, “the front trunk latch assembly may be misaligned, preventing the secondary hood latch from engaging,” Tesla told NHTSA in an official filing.”

Remember that Hoods used to only be open for service. Not routine consumer use. Something that has worked for years may be stressed in a way that hasn’t been before. Hence, conservatism in how Ford handles the frunk.

Not an apologist for Ford being slow and over-promising, but Tesla has been at the Frunk game nearly as long as anyone else (With the exception of Porsche), and here we are.

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[Carsinmyblood]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/30/22859717/tesla-model-3-s-recall-trunk-latch-failure-nhtsa

“The Model S recall is particularly concerning because the issue affects the front trunk, which could obstruct the driver’s view of the road if it flies open while driving. In the affected Model S cars, “the front trunk latch assembly may be misaligned, preventing the secondary hood latch from engaging,” Tesla told NHTSA in an official filing.”

Remember that Hoods used to only be open for service. Not routine consumer use. Something that has worked for years may be stressed in a way that hasn’t been before. Hence, conservatism in how Ford handles the frunk.

Not an apologist for Ford being slow and over-promising, but Tesla has been at the Frunk game nearly as long as anyone else (With the exception of Porsche), and here we are.

If they can make a driver's door last 200,000 miles, a frunk used for groceries should be quite simple. VW did it with the lowly Bug. This is not a problem.

 

[DR.J56]

I’ve been opening my hood from inside the car for 30+ years. I don’t see where having to fumble for my phone to open an app to push a button (if its not locked up or even connected) is any easier than opening the drivers door and pulling a latch, twice.

 

[mkhuffman]

I’ve been opening my hood from inside the car for 30+ years. I don’t see where having to fumble for my phone to open an app to push a button (if its not locked up or even connected) is any easier than opening the drivers door and pulling a latch, twice.

True, but I do wish the frunk was motorized like the rear hatch. Oh well, no big deal actually. The frunk is not that big. It works well for small grocery loads, but the dimensions limit how useful it really is. It is a great place to put stinky take out food though!

 

[ReelSweet]

I’ve been opening my hood from inside the car for 30+ years. I don’t see where having to fumble for my phone to open an app to push a button (if its not locked up or even connected) is any easier than opening the drivers door and pulling a latch, twice.

It's the ability to open it from outside the MME with stuff in your hands ...it's more difficult to get in the car and pull the lever vs. touching a phone or FOB.

 

[SashaLondon]

Porsche have had it decades without issues.

 

[Mirak]

Respectfully, I don’t understand how this article demonstrates “why Ford is being careful with the frunk.”

Ford has already installed the actuator for electronic release of the frunk double latch. It either trusts that actuator, and the double latch, or it doesn’t. All that remains is enabling the software to send the electronic signal to the actuator, which Ford has done with recent builds. The Tesla recall has nothing to do with software failure.

The delay is most likely for the same reason BlueCruise has been delayed: Ford can’t get its crap together re substantive OTA updates (sorry, sorry, I know we should be thankful for tic tac toe).

 

[SeattleMachE]

It's the ability to open it from outside the MME with stuff in your hands ...it's more difficult to get in the car and pull the lever vs. touching a phone or FOB.

This forum is constantly amazing me with how unimaginative it can be lol

 

[DevSecOps]

The MME has frunk release in newer models which makes this completely and, likely, falsely speculative.

If you changed the title to a question to spur creative discourse it would be acceptable, but as is, it's a false statement of fact.

Edit: Title was changed, I removed my "f*ck COVID going into 2022 rant".

 

[Logal727]

Another click bait thread with more armchair quarterbacking and nothing to back it up.

The MME has frunk release in newer models which makes this completely and, likely, falsely speculative.

If you changed the title to a question to spur creative discourse it would be acceptable, but as is, it's a false statement of fact.

Also they haven’t reached their supposed deadline for the BCM update either. Supposed to be Q1 22 last I read.

 

[ChasingCoral]

I’ve been opening my hood from inside the car for 30+ years. I don’t see where having to fumble for my phone to open an app to push a button (if its not locked up or even connected) is any easier than opening the drivers door and pulling a latch, twice.

Sure. A simple pull on the inside followed by fumbling around for several seconds to find that stupid lever hidden somewhere in the grill. You know the one—it keeps three hood from flying up when driving.

 

[Mach E JT]

C8 has a frunk. No issues that I’m aware of. It even has a button hidden in the front fascia for access.

 

[ElectrifyCLT]

Another click bait thread with nothing to back it up.

The MME has frunk release in newer models which makes this completely and, likely, falsely speculative.

If you changed the title to a question to spur creative discourse it would be acceptable, but as is, it's a false statement of fact.

Ok then… I couldn’t care less about clicks, so let’s all relax. No need to throw rocks and accusations out there.

Ford clearly didn’t trust the latch early on. They even manually drilled holes into the frunk tub to put in a divider to make it legal (due to not having the electronic release active).

If this was as simple as everyone seems to think it is, then why didnt they just add it to Job 1 software and avoid the OTA promises that are such an issue? Why hack at frunk tubs with a drill as a stopgap?

I honestly think my point stands. Any Frunk latch failure means bad news, and these things can take years to crop up as an issue (2017 cars are part of the Tesla recall).

We can all agree to disagree peacefully, no need to go on the attack.

 

[SAM]

What amazes me that I'm seeing more and more on this forum is an OP makes a post that some take exception too and then jump all over the OP, posting snarky and downright nasty replies. Take a step back. Relax. Have a Happy New Year!

 

[Logal727]

Ok then… I couldn’t care less about clicks, so let’s all relax. No need to throw rocks and accusations out there.

Ford clearly didn’t trust the latch early on. They even manually drilled holes into the frunk tub to put in a divider to make it legal (due to not having the electronic release active).

If this was as simple as everyone seems to think it is, then why didnt they just add it to Job 1 software and avoid the OTA promises that are such an issue? Why hack at frunk tubs with a drill as a stopgap?

I honestly think my point stands. Any Frunk latch failure means bad news, and these things can take years to crop up as an issue (2017 cars are part of the Tesla recall).

We can all agree to disagree peacefully, no need to go on the attack.

I thought it was more regulatory than willingly

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