FordPass App: 2024 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Upgrade Option

[Mach1E]

From when I drove it, the thing was extremely traction limited off the line. You will need a really good surface and/or tires to get the advertised 3.3 second 0-60. I'm even wondering if you put better tires than stock on if it would be possible to get a slightly faster time than 3.3? You'll run into the battery discharge limit probably shortly after that.

That’s pretty much what I expected.

With the stock 2021 GTPE tires, especially with some miles on them, I couldn’t floor it at any speed under 30 mph without roasting them.

Extra torque up to 30 mph would just make things worse.

Videos of before and after I got MUCH better tires here-
https://www.macheforum.com/site/threads/can-you-do-a-burnout-gt.35054/

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[Mach1E]

On the 2023 model, the Performance Edition upgrade was over $12,000. And you're complaining that the PE is a $1,000 upgrade in 2024. Seriously??

Their numbers are wrong.

It was always around $6k for the PE.

But in 2021-2023 that $6k got you new wheels, new seats, better brakes, magneride suspension….. AND extra torque.

For $1000 you just get the extra torque now (100 extra instead of 34) and the rest of that stuff is standard.

But yeah, I would say the 2024 is for sure the better deal.

 

[23macheGT]

I think Ford is focusing on new Mach-E customers not existing ones. Didn’t Ford had so many leftovers from 2023 that they had to lower the price drastically to get rid of them? Even if the 2023 and older models are capable of this software upgrade with a small price, would that entice new customers looking for older models instead since it’s a lot cheaper than the 2024 minus the other differences? They already got your money on current owners, so is it worth the investment on testing to see if it’s safe to unlock more power on previous models? The ability to unlock more power on previous model is not their priority. I don’t believe majority of the car owners looks for a car and is “expecting” future performance upgrade/update by the maker. I purchased my GT at the end of the year and I got a pretty good discount for it. Definitely can’t say Ford took a loss but for sure they didn’t profit as much as they would like. I bought my car new as is and is not expecting any performance improvement update. If it does I’m thankful, if it doesn’t oh well.

 

[Mach1E]

I think Ford is focusing on new Mach-E customers not existing ones. Didn’t Ford had so many leftovers from 2023 that they had to lower the price drastically to get rid of them? Even if the 2023 and older models are capable of this software upgrade with a small price, would that entice new customers looking for older models instead since it’s a lot cheaper than the 2024 minus the other differences? They already got your money on current owners, so is it worth the investment on testing to see if it’s safe to unlock more power on previous models? The ability to unlock more power on previous model is not their priority. I don’t believe majority of the car owners looks for a car and is “expecting” future performance upgrade/update by the maker. I purchased my GT at the end of the year and I got a pretty good discount for it. Definitely can’t say Ford took a loss but for sure they didn’t profit as much as they would like. I bought my car new as is and is not expecting any performance improvement update. If it does I’m thankful, if it doesn’t oh well.

Makes some sense except 1 part-

Ford EV division needs $$. If they unlock more horsepower and/or torque for the 21-23 models and charge us for it…… it’s basically all profit.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Their numbers are wrong.

It was always around $6k for the PE.

But in 2021-2023 that $6k got you new wheels, new seats, better brakes, magneride suspension….. AND extra torque.

For $1000 you just get the extra torque now (100 extra instead of 34) and the rest of that stuff is standard.

But yeah, I would say the 2024 is for sure the better deal.

And from perusing the forum, it seems that the 2024 now gets a threaded front bumper for a tow hook. ??

 

[23macheGT]

Makes some sense except 1 part-

Ford EV division needs $$. If they unlock more horsepower and/or torque for the 21-23 models and charge us for it…… it’s basically all profit.

So wouldn’t a new customer buy a new or an used 2023 or older model for $10k cheaper and be able to unlock and get more power than a stock 2024?

 

[Mach1E]

So wouldn’t a new customer buy a new or an used 2023 or older model for $10k cheaper and be able to unlock and get more power than a stock 2024?

No.

Because the 2024 has more powerful motors capable of 700 tq.

Tune or not, 2021-2023 can’t unlock that much.

But all years (2021-2024) are capable of more horsepower. And they should give that to us…… for a price.

If not, I would gladly take 650 tq plus reducing the power limits on my 2021.

 

[23macheGT]

No.

Because the 2024 has more powerful motors capable of 700 tq.

Tune or not, 2021-2023 can’t unlock that much.

But all years (2021-2024) are capable of more horsepower. And they should give that to us…… for a price.

If not, I would gladly take 650 tq plus reducing the power limits on my 2021.

capable as in extra money for the performance upgrade. Otherwise it’s still 600 tq like our models. Not worth $10k IMO for a newer model.

 

[Mach1E]

capable as in extra money for the performance upgrade. Otherwise it’s still 600 tq like our models. Not worth $10k IMO for a newer model.

The 2024 has the same base 600 tq like the 2021-2023 GT.

It’s still unclear if the base 2024 GT has the same power reductions at higher speeds or after 5 sec or so though if you don’t pay for the performance upgrade.

As far as price goes, the 2024 GT is actually cheaper than the 2021-2023 similarly equipped (GTPE).

 

[load97]

No.

Because the 2024 has more powerful motors capable of 700 tq.

Tune or not, 2021-2023 can’t unlock that much.

But all years (2021-2024) are capable of more horsepower. And they should give that to us…… for a price.

If not, I would gladly take 650 tq plus reducing the power limits on my 2021.

Even before the 2024 specs were out I thought I’ve read that the current motor is capable of 700 lb of tq ? (Just the motor regardless of wiring size).

 

[Mach1E]

Even before the 2024 specs were out I thought I’ve read that the current motor is capable of 700 lb of tq ? (Just the motor regardless of wiring size).

I haven’t seen that anywhere, but would be interesting.

I do know that the 2021-2023 motors are capable of 580 hp though (290 each).

 

[buzznwood]

I haven’t seen that anywhere, but would be interesting.

I do know that the 2021-2023 motors are capable of 580 hp though (290 each).

The 2024 rear motor is just the f-150 lightning motor so I expect it to have the same 210kw (281hp) power, so exactly the same as the old mach-e motor, it just has the additional torque now. Hence the 700lbs vs the 634lbs of the pre 2024 GTPE models. But the power is still limited to 480hp so is still being constrained, unlike the lightning that offers the full power from both motors with the large battery.

Interesting to see that the mach-e eluminator motor part is now less than half the price when it was first introduced, maybe it will get replaced with the newer motor

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9000-MACHE

IMO looking it as a performance EV it is all too little too late now, the performance EV game has moved on significantly in this class. The current 2024 is what the earlier models should have been and charging extra to unlock what you already have hardware wise is just an attempt to squeeze as much coin out of the platform as possible.

Had they used 2x lightning motors and unleashed the full power as in the f-150 then it would have been a worthwhile performance upgrade over the prior years and kept it relevant. Still for those that are currently on the fence over getting 2024 GT vs premium I would still say the base GT is worth the extra as you now get the magneride as standard, the performance upgrade not so much.

 

[Mike G]

As of 19 Sep 24:

The 2024 Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Upgrade is now available as a post-sale option in the FordPass App or Ford.com Connected Services page. This means that if you did not select the Performance Upgrade when you purchased your vehicle, you can add this feature now.

1. Open the FordPass App
2. Tap Account (top right hand corner)
3. Tap Connected Services
4. Tap “Activate” under the Mustang Mach-E GT Performance Upgrade tile
5. Once you complete the transaction the upgrade will be installed in less than 5 minutes, and you can enjoy all that the upgrade enables.

 

[HuntingPudel]

Why say “will be first available on 2024..”? That sounds like it may be open to earlier models in the future but that is not the intention.

should read will ONLY be available for 2024 and newer model years.

The intent of that statement is that the hardware is on 2024 and newer model MME GTs. Our 2021-2023 GTs do not have the newer hardware. It would be nice to see Ford price a kit for retrofit of the hardware but I doubt that will ever happen. I also highly doubt that Ford will follow through on their promise to increase the length of time before we hit the limiter on our older cars. I want to be wrong on that, but it is what it is. ?‍?

 

[HuntingPudel]

so.... sounds like the hardware changes in 2024 are a combination of better motor, and improved cooling/heating lines for temperature management in motors and battery tray. So, not realistic to expect as a retro-fit upgrade to any previous model years.

I am somewhat surprised by the decision to charge $1000 for a software 'unlock' to access the extra power.

Extra power means added warranty exposure. $1K isn’t all that bad to me. If you think about it, it’d cost more than that to buy a cam and kit, have it installed, and alter the fuel/spark mapping to take advantage of it. ?‍?

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