No apps, no swipes – every EV will get Supercharger-like charging in 2025

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No apps, no swipes – every EV will get Supercharger-like charging in 2025
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Jameson Dow| Dec 4 2024 - 10:48 am PT
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Universal Plug & Charge – the ability for any EV to just plug in and start charging without having to open an app, swipe a card or press any buttons first – will be ready in 2025 and promises to make EV charging much easier, thanks to an effort between the Society of Automotive Engineers, the auto industry, and the Biden Admin’s Joint Office of Energy & Transportation.

In the ideal case, one of the best parts of EV ownership is the fact that it’s such a convenient, easy experience. Just charge your car at home most nights, and the few times you need to charge on the road, stop at a DC fast charger, plug in (without having to swipe a credit card or anything) when you have lunch or otherwise need a break, and continue on whenever you’re ready.

But, outside of Tesla Superchargers and the much smaller Rivian Adventure Network, on-the-road EV charging can be an inconsistent experience in the US. While other networks exist and plenty of drivers use them every day, they typically have lower reliability and can be confusing or frustrating to initiate charge sessions at.

Many EV drivers can tell you about exasperated moments they’ve experienced, or witnessed others experience. Lots of us have had to coach a new owner through the charging process – or struggled with it ourselves when setting up a new charging app for the fifteenth f$%*ing time.

It would be a lot better if you could just walk up, plug in, and charge. And do this anywhere.

This idea isn’t new – Tesla’s system already works like this, but it can do so since it’s vertically integrated and one company controls the whole process. For public chargers that have to serve several different types of cars, the back end hasn’t been available to allow this sort of charging.

The problem is the lack of a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) back-end to authenticate vehicles and payments. Public keys are a cryptographic mechanism that allow for secure authentication – one example is website certificates, so your computer can know that it is looking at a legitimate website.

In Europe, this PKI is provided by a company called Hubject, which verifies charging sessions on European public chargers. But in the US, nobody had coalesced around a single company or organization to provide these certificate services yet.

A solution has been in the works for a few years now, and it’s finally just about ready to go, in the form of what’s colloquially referred to as “Universal Plug & Charge,” and technically referred to as the ISO 15118 standard.

Today, a consortium of companies, the SAE, and the Biden Administration’s Joint Office of Energy and Transportation announced that Universal Plug & Charge will come in 2025.

The technical details involve a PKI back-end that isn’t provided by a single company, but utilizes a standardized process to allow various companies to provide this service.

In practical terms, it means faster starts to charging sessions as the communication process is streamlined, better security, and potential future capabilities like bidirectional charging.

And it means that other EVs that support Plug & Charge will finally have a Tesla-like charging experience, where they can just plug in and start charging – with payment taken care of on the back end, instead of having to swipe cards or open new apps.

The Joint Office says that PKI suppliers can start applying to offer back-end services, and that “throughout 2025, the industry will continue to move toward the universal Plug & Charge model.”

So… like many things have been with EVs, it sounds like there will still be a gradual process of adoption, but the light at the end of the tunnel is finally visible, and it looks like EV fast-charging is going to get a lot simpler in the near future.
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Jameson Dow| Dec 4 2024 - 10:48 am PT
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Universal Plug & Charge – the ability for any EV to just plug in and start charging without having to open an app, swipe a card or press any buttons first – will be ready in 2025 and promises to make EV charging much easier, thanks to an effort between the Society of Automotive Engineers, the auto industry, and the Biden Admin’s Joint Office of Energy & Transportation.

In the ideal case, one of the best parts of EV ownership is the fact that it’s such a convenient, easy experience. Just charge your car at home most nights, and the few times you need to charge on the road, stop at a DC fast charger, plug in (without having to swipe a credit card or anything) when you have lunch or otherwise need a break, and continue on whenever you’re ready.

But, outside of Tesla Superchargers and the much smaller Rivian Adventure Network, on-the-road EV charging can be an inconsistent experience in the US. While other networks exist and plenty of drivers use them every day, they typically have lower reliability and can be confusing or frustrating to initiate charge sessions at.

Many EV drivers can tell you about exasperated moments they’ve experienced, or witnessed others experience. Lots of us have had to coach a new owner through the charging process – or struggled with it ourselves when setting up a new charging app for the fifteenth f$%*ing time.

It would be a lot better if you could just walk up, plug in, and charge. And do this anywhere.

This idea isn’t new – Tesla’s system already works like this, but it can do so since it’s vertically integrated and one company controls the whole process. For public chargers that have to serve several different types of cars, the back end hasn’t been available to allow this sort of charging.

The problem is the lack of a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) back-end to authenticate vehicles and payments. Public keys are a cryptographic mechanism that allow for secure authentication – one example is website certificates, so your computer can know that it is looking at a legitimate website.

In Europe, this PKI is provided by a company called Hubject, which verifies charging sessions on European public chargers. But in the US, nobody had coalesced around a single company or organization to provide these certificate services yet.

A solution has been in the works for a few years now, and it’s finally just about ready to go, in the form of what’s colloquially referred to as “Universal Plug & Charge,” and technically referred to as the ISO 15118 standard.

Today, a consortium of companies, the SAE, and the Biden Administration’s Joint Office of Energy and Transportation announced that Universal Plug & Charge will come in 2025.

The technical details involve a PKI back-end that isn’t provided by a single company, but utilizes a standardized process to allow various companies to provide this service.

In practical terms, it means faster starts to charging sessions as the communication process is streamlined, better security, and potential future capabilities like bidirectional charging.

And it means that other EVs that support Plug & Charge will finally have a Tesla-like charging experience, where they can just plug in and start charging – with payment taken care of on the back end, instead of having to swipe cards or open new apps.

The Joint Office says that PKI suppliers can start applying to offer back-end services, and that “throughout 2025, the industry will continue to move toward the universal Plug & Charge model.”

So… like many things have been with EVs, it sounds like there will still be a gradual process of adoption, but the light at the end of the tunnel is finally visible, and it looks like EV fast-charging is going to get a lot simpler in the near future.
I had my 1st Tesla-like charging(at a Tesla charger thanks to the Ford adapter) a little over a week ago and it was amazing. Just plugged in and less than 1hour later had 300 miles. Cost was around $40 and went on my credit card on file in the Ford pass app. Gives me a completely different outlook on road trips! :) game-changer for the EV world.
 

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I personally have to use apps at superchargers currently if I want my discount….
I was under 10mile of range so didn't care how much it cost...just happy it worked so easily. Normally I would have planned better but an unexpected trip to the hospital with my Dad put a wrench in my plans...since I have rarely used a charger away from home in over 2 years, I don't mind paying more for convenience the rare times I need a supercharger. :)
 


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Just plugged in and less than 1hour later had 300 miles.
This is still pretty striking. Three hundred miles in:

  • Less than an hour for an EV
  • Less than 5 minutes for an ICEV
Still, a step in the right direction.
 

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Spending an hour on an DCFC, from my experience, suggests charging outside of the 0-80 window.
I like the “hop” approach that I heard someone else on here mention. In 20 minutes I can add over 100 miles, stop at a buccees, go to the bathroom get a snack or a drink and before you know it 20 minutes gone. Its a more relaxing mode of Travel.
 

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Spending an hour on an DCFC, from my experience, suggests charging outside of the 0-80 window.
I like the “hop” approach that I heard someone else on here mention. In 20 minutes I can add over 100 miles, stop at a buccees, go to the bathroom get a snack or a drink and before you know it 20 minutes gone. Its a more relaxing mode of Travel.
Charging roughly 20-80% is the most efficient. Even 10-90 isn’t that bad and will happen if you’re getting lunch/dinner.

But 90-100 is bad. Pretty much as bad as 20-80.
 

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No apps, no swipes – every EV will get Supercharger-like charging in 2025
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Jameson Dow| Dec 4 2024 - 10:48 am PT
image-38.jpg

Universal Plug & Charge – the ability for any EV to just plug in and start charging without having to open an app, swipe a card or press any buttons first – will be ready in 2025 and promises to make EV charging much easier, thanks to an effort between the Society of Automotive Engineers, the auto industry, and the Biden Admin’s Joint Office of Energy & Transportation.

In the ideal case, one of the best parts of EV ownership is the fact that it’s such a convenient, easy experience. Just charge your car at home most nights, and the few times you need to charge on the road, stop at a DC fast charger, plug in (without having to swipe a credit card or anything) when you have lunch or otherwise need a break, and continue on whenever you’re ready.

But, outside of Tesla Superchargers and the much smaller Rivian Adventure Network, on-the-road EV charging can be an inconsistent experience in the US. While other networks exist and plenty of drivers use them every day, they typically have lower reliability and can be confusing or frustrating to initiate charge sessions at.

Many EV drivers can tell you about exasperated moments they’ve experienced, or witnessed others experience. Lots of us have had to coach a new owner through the charging process – or struggled with it ourselves when setting up a new charging app for the fifteenth f$%*ing time.

It would be a lot better if you could just walk up, plug in, and charge. And do this anywhere.

This idea isn’t new – Tesla’s system already works like this, but it can do so since it’s vertically integrated and one company controls the whole process. For public chargers that have to serve several different types of cars, the back end hasn’t been available to allow this sort of charging.

The problem is the lack of a Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) back-end to authenticate vehicles and payments. Public keys are a cryptographic mechanism that allow for secure authentication – one example is website certificates, so your computer can know that it is looking at a legitimate website.

In Europe, this PKI is provided by a company called Hubject, which verifies charging sessions on European public chargers. But in the US, nobody had coalesced around a single company or organization to provide these certificate services yet.

A solution has been in the works for a few years now, and it’s finally just about ready to go, in the form of what’s colloquially referred to as “Universal Plug & Charge,” and technically referred to as the ISO 15118 standard.

Today, a consortium of companies, the SAE, and the Biden Administration’s Joint Office of Energy and Transportation announced that Universal Plug & Charge will come in 2025.

The technical details involve a PKI back-end that isn’t provided by a single company, but utilizes a standardized process to allow various companies to provide this service.

In practical terms, it means faster starts to charging sessions as the communication process is streamlined, better security, and potential future capabilities like bidirectional charging.

And it means that other EVs that support Plug & Charge will finally have a Tesla-like charging experience, where they can just plug in and start charging – with payment taken care of on the back end, instead of having to swipe cards or open new apps.

The Joint Office says that PKI suppliers can start applying to offer back-end services, and that “throughout 2025, the industry will continue to move toward the universal Plug & Charge model.”

So… like many things have been with EVs, it sounds like there will still be a gradual process of adoption, but the light at the end of the tunnel is finally visible, and it looks like EV fast-charging is going to get a lot simpler in the near future.
A very nice post, but a little late.
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Geeez ?

Can there be one thread without political doom&gloom?

Rhetorical, of course. ??
Already know it's not possible.
It's an EV forum. Comes with such baggage.
 
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A very nice post, but a little late.
There is a new sheriff in town and he is not an advocate of EVs. Expect a fight.
This isn't government funded, it is corporations working together to implement a common solution.
 

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This isn't government funded, it is corporations working together to implement a common solution.
As I recall the issue is that the Infrastructure Bill requires that anyone or corporation that takes advantage of the tax breaks, grants and low interest loans that are part of the bill to make those facilities available to ALL EV,s.
 
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As I recall the issue is that the Infrastructure Bill requires that anyone or corporation that takes advantage of the tax breaks, grants and low interest loans that are part of the bill to make those facilities available to ALL EV,s.
IIRC that text only required that it be useable to vehicles made by more than one company. Feel free to provide us with the text that supports your recollection of "ALL".

ALL would mean requiring CHAdeMO connectors. While CHAdeMO is allowed under first year funding in the NEVI Standards and Requirements (see 23 CFR Part 680) there is no long-term requirement of CHAdeMO compatibility.

ALL would not include Plug & Charge anyway, as most existing vehicles have no Plug & Charge capability, certainly not to the ISO 15118-20 version.

Plug & Charge implementation under ISO 15118 was still under development when the NEVI S&R was published. This is, in fact, part of that industry process to develop ISO 15118-20 implementation.
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