NHTSA opens probe into BlueCruise

[TheLongRanger]

NHTSA BlueCruise

As if there isn't enough "excitement" in the news today. ?

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[RickMachE]

According to the NHTSA, in both fatal collisions, the Ford Mustang Mach-E vehicle was traveling over 70 mph on a highway during nighttime lighting conditions on BlueCruise mode when it collided with a stationary vehicle.

The agency said these vehicles seem to have system limitations relating to the detection of stationary vehicles while traveling at highway speeds and in nighttime lighting.

NHTSA said it will further investigate these limitations and evaluate drivers' ability to respond to scenarios that exceed such limitations.

 

[TheLongRanger]

No, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I find the timing a bit suspect given today's ascension of Elon as Crown Prince Dauphin. BTW, note that Reuters just changed the headline from "opens" into "upgrades."

 

[hack-e]

I think people should understand the limitations:

 

[Snakebitten]

This forum is an EV forum, so I guess it shouldn't be shocking that almost any and every thread can lasso Elon Musk into attempted relevance.

But this? ?

Man he lives in people's heads. ???

I absolutely enjoy the heck out of my Mach-E. It's been a fantastic ownership experience so far. The only thing it has to do with Elon, as far as I can tell, is it very likely wouldn't even exist if not for Tesla. Oh, and I guess there is one more Elon-ish thing about owning my Mach-E. I can charge at Tesla Superchargers when I travel to see my 93 year old dad. (400 mile round trip)

Selfishly speaking, I'm kinda grateful.

 

[Pioneer74]

No, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I find the timing a bit suspect given today's ascension of Elon as Crown Prince Dauphin. BTW, note that Reuters just changed the headline from "opens" into "upgrades."

It's not noon yet. You're looking to hard for a conspiracy.

 

[TheLongRanger]

Elon's insistence that camera-only is the best process (crash smash ouch) is being rewarded by this probe into similar crash smash ouch from competing non-camera cars. Yes its weird, but then again, the world enters the Twilight Zone today so nothing much surprises me any longer.

 

[Snakebitten]

Bluecruise is a Mach-E ADAS system.
Nothing to do with Tesla.

But if you say so. ????

 

[djstough]

I’ve had a situation with an emergency vehicle stopped mostly in the left lane of a beltway. Would the car have adapted? I don’t know. But since I was paying attention, I just moved right and went about my night.

 

[TheLongRanger]

Bluecruise is a Mach-E ADAS system.
Nothing to do with Tesla.

But if you say so. ????

Please note that I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but Elon has long insisted that his Level 2 run only on camera visuals in opposition to LIDAR and other competing tech. Thus it follows that he would rejoice at competition performing in a similar crash smash ouch manner as his in low visibility scenarios.

 

[MacherAWD]

Please note that I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but Elon has long insisted that his Level 2 run only on camera visuals in opposition to LIDAR and other competing tech. Thus it follows that he would rejoice at competition performing in a similar crash smash ouch manner as his in low visibility scenarios.

Tesla has never complied with mandatory reporting of accidents using autonomous features and DOGE has said it will likely eliminate that department anyways. Highways will be MadMax soon.

 

[ChehRob]

I understand that most serious accidents involving ADAS are of interest to NHTSA. They should also be of interest to vehicle manufacturers, it is an evolving technology. The principal thing for us customers is 'don't be an idiot'. In about four years I will assess what brand's ADAS is most likely to help me avoid an accident and trade in that '23 MME - first preference would be another one. But I will expect/hope its software to be a lot better than what I have now.

 

[Snakebitten]

I'm near 70 years old.

Driving on the roads have been dangerous my whole life. I think statistics indicate that we die on the road in similar numbers annually, regardless of the obvious advancements in "safety" over the last 5 decades.
Honestly, as much as I enjoy all the latest technology in my personal vehicles, I don't think any technology currently available gives me immunity to the risks of losing my life on the way to the office today. Or the trip to see my dad 200 miles away. The dump truck behind me might experience brake failure at the next stop sign.

Human vigilance and shear luck are my best safeties. I've already defied the odds by being primarily a motorcyclist from 15 years old until 2014. (40+ years) Vigilance is hardwired into my driving psyche.

 

[TheLongRanger]

I'm near 70 years old and have owned 37 motorcycles lifetime. So brother Snakebitten, I can't agree with you more. I have BlueCruise on 99% of the time on its roads, but I am always awake, aware, and in control.

 

[Fremont Kid]

I'm near 70 years old.

Driving on the roads have been dangerous my whole life. I think statistics indicate that we die on the road in similar numbers annually, regardless of the obvious advancements in "safety" over the last 5 decades.
Honestly, as much as I enjoy all the latest technology in my personal vehicles, I don't think any technology currently available gives me immunity to the risks of losing my life on the way to the office today. Or the trip to see my dad 200 miles away. The dump truck behind me might experience brake failure at the next stop sign.

Human vigilance and shear luck are my best safeties. I've already defied the odds by being primarily a motorcyclist from 15 years old until 2014. (40+ years) Vigilance is hardwired into my driving psyche.

I'm in the same age cohort. When I taught my kids to drive, I told them the most dangerous thing you will ever do is "get in a car to drive from point A to point B." Now at 40 and 36 they tell me that was the best driving advice and that too many people don't think that way when they drive.

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