My Mach-E saved me $3600 so far

[Fat Mach]

So how about an ICE Mustang? If we assume 32 mpg highway and $3.00 per gallon, that's still 515 gallons of gas and over $1,500.

That's a much better comparison. Heck, when I used to commute to the office it was about $2.75 for the round trip of about 63 miles, IIRC. That's in my Focus EV. None of my other vehicles get anywhere close on a cost/mile basis. But, they're all more fun.

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[Nklem]

Calling BS. Unlikely you ‘saved’ $3,600.

You might have used 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel that might have cost you $3,000 had you driven a Super Duty, but you didn’t ‘save’ the entire amount. You (someone) had energy cost for the ~4-5,000 kWhs.

And even if you had changed oil & filter every 3,000 miles in the SD, you want us to believe you are paying $120 per visit?

The savings of an EV vs ICE are real. No need to exaggerate.

Maybe he’s like others with “free solar” ……lol. The Solar gods dropped and installed the solar system on their house, disconnecting them from the utility, giving the free abundant power forever even in the dark. No mortgage, loan or cash payment for the solar system.

 

[Fat Mach]

Maybe he’s like others with “free solar” ……lol. The Solar gods dropped and installed the solar system on their house, disconnecting them from the utility, giving the free abundant power forever. No mortgage, loan or cash payment for the solar system.

I actually did get a free Solar City system. The previous owner signed up for the $40k system 9 months before they sold the house, SMH. I made an offer of $900k for the house, but when I found out about the liability for the solar system I rescinded that offer and made a new one at $860. They took it. Bam! Free solar.

 

[SnBGC]

Calling BS. Unlikely you ‘saved’ $3,600.

You might have used 1,000 gallons of diesel fuel that might have cost you $3,000 had you driven a Super Duty, but you didn’t ‘save’ the entire amount. You (someone) had energy cost for the ~4-5,000 kWhs.

And even if you had changed oil & filter every 3,000 miles in the SD, you want us to believe you are paying $120 per visit?

The savings of an EV vs ICE are real. No need to exaggerate.

Well, if you want to be technical about it.....
I actually have two Super Duty trucks. A 1999 and a 2000. The '99 has well over 400,000 miles and the 2000 is around 275,000 miles. Most of those miles are commuting miles with just me in the cab and nothing in the bed. So, we are comparing daily driver to daily driver.

I actually pay about $18 less per month in energy costs now compared to when I was driving my Super Duty trucks on a daily basis. I now qualify for a time of use plan that charges me 5.75 cents per kW during the evenings because I own an EV. Prior to that, I paid a much higher rate. So I basically drive for free. There is some charging at work but we have solar so that is the panel I am connected to. I rarely charge at the office but I do plug in so my battery can condition when it's warm out.

The Super Duty truck takes 15 qts of oil, plus the oil filter, fuel filter and air filter and I send out for oil analysis. That costs me about $135 each time.

What I didn't include is license and registrations savings over a comparable ICE vehicle. That is about $4800 over 5 years.

I also gained back about an hour of my life per day due to traffic because I can now use the HOV lane when I wasn't able to do that in my Super Duty. Not sure what the value is for that hour of my life but it can be measured somehow. Whatever it is, it's super valuable to me.

And since we are splitting hairs....
I also get a vehicle reimbursement for business use. Which I would get anyway so in theory it is a wash but we now install quite a few EVSE units and my car is used to test the station operation so the usage has increased. I used to average about 24k miles per year. I am now on pace for 32k miles/yr. That additional 7k miles might be attributable to the EV station use that I couldn't do in my Super Duty. That is valued around $3920 in reimbursements but all that isn't for business since some of that has to be personal use....just not sure what the ratio is just yet. My records aren't that detailed unfortunately.
So far, since I have had my Mach-E, I have been reimbursed $4,137.71 for business use.

I actually have cost per mile records for my last 700,000 miles driven. 66k of those miles have been EV so I can do a real world comparison if I was curious enough. That covers everything. Purchase Price, finance charges, registration, emissions, fuel, maintenance and repairs.....everything.

I am sure that every day I continue to drive an EV that I save money. Not a little bit....a lot.
I have so much more discretionary income now that I drive an EV compared to before with the truck. I attribute that to the cost savings by ditching ICE because Lord knows that it's not because I am earning so much more these days.

 

[Nklem]

I actually did get a free Solar City system. The previous owner signed up for the $40k system 9 months before they sold the house, SMH. I made an offer of $900k for the house, but when I found out about the liability for the solar system I rescinded that offer and made a new one at $860. They took it. Bam! Free solar.

Cool. That’s a deal. instant payback.

 

[Kabish]

God this forum can get toxic quick lol

Dude is happy and is comparing his new Mach-E to his previous truck (that he otherwise would still be driving) that guzzled gas. I came from a 17mpg F150 with gas being $4.60 a gallon, I feel this guys joy lol. No reason to poo on him and get all technical trying to break down the numbers.

He’s enjoying what we all enjoy.

 

[mfbrown]

LOL you are comparing an EV SUV to a full sized truck? C'mon man. I love my Super Duty with the six speed manual, but you can't make that comparison.

From a "vehicle" perspective you are right; not really comparable. From a "use" perspective; it is very comparable. If his primary vehicle was the truck and now it is the Mach-e, then from a personal cost and carbon footprint perspective; he just made a huge impact - which is comparable and real.

I'm trading a Jeep GC at 19 mpg to the Mach-e when it comes in. That is the real change in carbon footprint that will happen when I change vehicles. Since I don't use most of my solar panel capacity; I can argue that my electricity has a low carbon footprint also.

But you are very right; they are two very different vehicles with different capabilities. He won't be towing or hauling much with that Mach-e!

 

[All Hat No Cattle]

I recently did some math on the lightning With the minimal data available (300 mile range, 150 kW, 2.0 M/kWh, $.09/ mile).

At my power cost, .17/kWh and mid grade at $3.31, it will get about 36 ICE equivalent MPG. The Mach E is 78 MPG ICE equivalent for me, 3.9 m/kWh average.

I follow the F150 forums, and there is a catch on that 300 mile range.

Just for accuracy, that range is with a 1,000# payload.

From a review:

Ford tells him the 230 and 300 mile ranges are with a 1K payload. The truck he got to drive and play around with was showing an estimated range of 367 miles at 80% so that would mean a 100% full range of 460 miles!

 

[shutterbug]

I also gained back about an hour of my life per day due to traffic because I can now use the HOV lane when I wasn't able to do that in my Super Duty. Not sure what the value is for that hour of my life but it can be measured somehow. Whatever it is, it's super valuable to me.

Plus the time you're not spending at a gas station, pumping diesel.

 

[Nklem]

I follow the F150 forums, and there is a catch on that 300 mile range.

Just for accuracy, that range is with a 1,000# payload.

From a review:

I am anxious for the real numbers and EPA test data. So far nothing in concrete from Ford.

 

[Jimmy2]

6 months and 16.5k miles and I realized if I was still driving my Super Duty then I would have burned 1000 gallons of diesel to travel the same distance. Last I looked, diesel fuel is a little over $3/gallon. If you include the oil/filter changes then it works out to an easy $3600 in 6 months or $600/month.

I continue to be amazed how cheap EVs are compared to ICE vehicles.

Add another $7500 in savings when you go to file your taxes next year.

 

[Jimmy2]

Here is the question to ask all those who claim filling up at the gas station is so much quicker than EV charging station: Do you have a gas pump in your garage?

 

[ChasingCoral]

Here is the question to ask all those who claim filling up at the gas station is so much quicker than EV charging station: Do you have a gas pump in your garage?

Yes and I pee onto the gas pump while filling at the station so I don't have to go inside

 

[EagleDave]

Plus the time you're not spending at a gas station, pumping diesel.

But now he's spending more time on this forum!

 

[RedStallion]

For city driving, definitely, the savings are significant. But I usually put more mileage in one long trip than in a month of city driving. And for interstate EVs aren't efficient at all.

Here is CA the gas prices and EA chargers are approximately 1 gal = 10 kWh, and if you subtract the losses it's closer to 1 gal = 9kWh of usable battery capacity. I expect the rising natural gas prices will lead to increasing electric rates as well as it's the major source.

So assuming the same ratio will stand in the future, and an average 2.7 miles per kWh on interstate (very generous assumption) you end up with a 24mpg equivalent. Most gas cars of the same size have a lot better efficiency on highways.

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