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Pretty nice praise for the 'ol MME, especially vs TSLA!
 

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They've always had pretty good things to say about their Mach-E, so it's not that surprising.

I do like seeing more long term thoughts on the Mach-E over time. Matt Farah had a lot to of good things to say about his too before he turned it in not long ago. And that was one he had purchased (leased) as well.
 

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I noticed the same things on my Model Y test drive that they commented on, bad ride and rattling seats. Did not give confidence in the build quality.

On top of all the other things I disliked about the car and Tesla in general, it was plenty enough to make me look elsewhere.

I'm sure it will be fine, plenty of people still buying Model Ys, they seem to be a status symbol item in the immigrant tech crowd, of which we have a lot around here now.
 

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At the end of May (a few days before I purchased my Mach-E), I test drove a Model Y. I don't know what year it was, but it seems reasonable that they'd have me test driving the newest model year so it would have been a 2024. This thing squeaked and rattled really badly.

Most annoying was the metal on metal squeaking... It was really loud and bad. I had no problem telling the Tesla folks that if their test drive car (that's used to show off the car) squeaked that badly, I had no interest in Tesla.
 


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At the end of May (a few days before I purchased my Mach-E), I test drove a Model Y. I don't know what year it was, but it seems reasonable that they'd have me test driving the newest model year so it would have been a 2024. This thing squeaked and rattled really badly.

Most annoying was the metal on metal squeaking... It was really loud and bad. I had no problem telling the Tesla folks that if their test drive car (that's used to show off the car) squeaked that badly, I had no interest in Tesla.
Sounds similar to my experience in early 2022. It was between the Model Y and the Mach E... well, guess which one I chose?
 

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I did call them out on their comparison about the F-150 Lightning Lariat vs. the Rivian R1T Launch Edition. They made the comment that they paid more for the Lightning than the Rivian and I told them … NO WAY. They have a flawed memory OR someone gave them a screaming deal that wasn’t available to the general public.

I CLOSELY watched both of these trucks and was interested in buying both of them.

They have a defective memory on what they paid for the Rivian. They don’t say the price …but they said they paid ā€œmoreā€ for the F-150 Lightning Lariat than they paid for the Rivian R1T Launch Edition … and that is not possible.

Rivian only made the most expensive quad-motors available at launch. You had to wait a while to get a dual-motor version. Also … Rivian RAISED the price (it was a scandal) on people who had locked in with a pre-order. They eventually back-pedaled on agreed to honor the original price but ONLY for those with a pre-order … everyone else had to pay the higher price.

Rivian’s started at around $80k. So a base Rivian was nearly as expensive as the top-end of an F-150 Lightning package (e.g. a Platinum). A Lariat with the extended range battery and BlueCruise was still under $90k (in the ballpark of a base Rivian … not a fully-loaded R1T Launch Edition.)
 

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I did call them out on their comparison about the F-150 Lightning Lariat vs. the Rivian R1T Launch Edition. They made the comment that they paid more for the Lightning than the Rivian and I told them … NO WAY. They have a flawed memory OR someone gave them a screaming deal that wasn’t available to the general public.

I CLOSELY watched both of these trucks and was interested in buying both of them.

They have a defective memory on what they paid for the Rivian. They don’t say the price …but they said they paid ā€œmoreā€ for the F-150 Lightning Lariat than they paid for the Rivian R1T Launch Edition … and that is not possible.

Rivian only made the most expensive quad-motors available at launch. You had to wait a while to get a dual-motor version. Also … Rivian RAISED the price (it was a scandal) on people who had locked in with a pre-order. They eventually back-pedaled on agreed to honor the original price but ONLY for those with a pre-order … everyone else had to pay the higher price.

Rivian’s started at around $80k. So a base Rivian was nearly as expensive as the top-end of an F-150 Lightning package (e.g. a Platinum). A Lariat with the extended range battery and BlueCruise was still under $90k (in the ballpark of a base Rivian … not a fully-loaded R1T Launch Edition.)
They have how much they paid on all their longterm vehicles, on the Edmunds website.

Our test vehicle: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat Dual eMotor Extended Range Battery
• Base MSRP: $67,474
• MSRP as tested: $80,014
• What we paid: $80,014 (plus tax)

Our test vehicle: 2022 Rivian R1T Launch Edition (quad electric motors | 1-speed direct drive | all-wheel drive)
• Base MSRP: $73,000
• MSRP as tested: $75,175
• What we paid: $76,250

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/long-term-road-tests/
 

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They have how much they paid on all their longterm vehicles, on the Edmunds website.

Our test vehicle: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning Lariat Dual eMotor Extended Range Battery
• Base MSRP: $67,474
• MSRP as tested: $80,014
• What we paid: $80,014 (plus tax)

Our test vehicle: 2022 Rivian R1T Launch Edition (quad electric motors | 1-speed direct drive | all-wheel drive)
• Base MSRP: $73,000
• MSRP as tested: $75,175
• What we paid: $76,250

https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/long-term-road-tests/
I don’t recall ANY Rivian (back when I was checking prices) having a base price of less than $80k. I’d need an internet way-back machine to check prices because if you try to check today, it’s hard to find the ā€œhistoricalā€ price that was offered at the time.

Remember … Rivian RIASED the price of the R1T … even to pre-orders … then back-pedaled after the outrage for doing that. But only pre-orders could get the original price. But I don’t recall even the original price of any model being less than $80k.

I know this … because I was shopping for one and building them with the various options to see what was possible.
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