Mach-E Will Not Migrate to Universal EV Platform

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I don't see a post from you yet on the M50. How do you like it?

If I had to give up the electric Mustang, that's probably the one I would get next.
Also, I don’t know if mine’s referred to as the 50 it’s an E Dr. 40 which is 2 Wheel Dr. I don’t know if the 50 means four wheel I know X Dr. does
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Also, I don’t know if mine’s referred to as the 50 it’s an E Dr. 40 which is 2 Wheel Dr. I don’t know if the 50 means four wheel I know X Dr. does
The i4 comes in these flavors
in 2026 :cool:

i4 eDrive40----rear wheel drive (335 hp)
i4 xDrive40----all wheel drive (396 hp)
i4 M60--------all-wheel drive (592 hp - beefed up over rhe 2025 M50)

2024-2025 had an M50
i4 M50--------all wheel drive (536 hp)

The 40 , 50 , 60 is a rounded nod to the horsepower figure :wink:
 

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I was just out for my morning walk and I saw Carvana drive in the neighborhood with a Tesla performance model on the back and he stopped at my friend’s house and he’s getting rid of his Mustang GT ice version. He says yeah my uncle’s got a couple of them so I went with Tesla. He said this premium gas in the Mustang just ain’t getting it anymore. He said driving 60 miles a day, I said I got what I got. I just hope you’re happy with it. I’m sure you will be happy with Electric. It’s a different world driving it when you’re used to a loud car. I said I actually find it more exciting driving the electric car than I did a gas powered car.

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What a sad looking mail box....😶
Yeah, down at my end of the street we have better looking mailboxes. Actually, the mailbox before him is about 2 foot off the ground as they break. All they do is lower lol the HOA does not approve of that though.
 

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I’m being optimistic, hoping they are prepping for solid state batteries. That could resolve the charge time and range. Then the only re-engineering necessary for me, would to add adjustable suspension. Thanks to Granger, I have 5 more years before I need that to happen.
 


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I’m being optimistic, hoping they are prepping for solid state batteries. That could resolve the charge time and range. Then the only re-engineering necessary for me, would to add adjustable suspension. Thanks to Granger, I have 5 more years before I need that to happen.
That would be a good thing.


Rather than focusing on the lack of migration to the UEV platform, people ought to be a bit more concerned about the effect the Connected Vehicle regulations will have on the mach-e, particularly those that become effective with the 2030 model year.

For those who want some light reading, might I suggest 15 CFR §791.301 and 15 CFR §791.303. It's particularly effective just before bed.
 

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That would be a good thing.


Rather than focusing on the lack of migration to the UEV platform, people ought to be a bit more concerned about the effect the Connected Vehicle regulations will have on the mach-e, particularly those that become effective with the 2030 model year.

For those who want some light reading, might I suggest 15 CFR §791.301 and 15 CFR §791.303. It's particularly effective just before bed.
I just scanned all of Subpart D, imagine all the transactions that will happen before it takes effect, the dates and exceptions are typical gov speak. There is eve a specific definition for Model Year:
Model year means the year used to designate a discrete vehicle model, irrespective of the calendar year in which the vehicle was actually produced, provided that the production period does not exceed 24 months.

Manufacturers might be able to tweak their MY designations to get around that, e.g. making a 2026 model for 24 months...
 
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The Mach-E is almost certainly within the general scope of connected vehicle rules because it is obviously a connected vehicle. But “within scope” does not mean “noncompliant” or, more extremely, “prohibited.” The important question is which parts of the vehicle are covered by the rule.

The rule mainly focuses on two areas:
  1. VCS — Vehicle Connectivity System
    The hardware and software that allow the vehicle to communicate wirelessly. In plain English, this is the connected-car side of the vehicle: cellular modem, telematics, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, satellite communication if equipped, and related connectivity hardware/software.
  2. ADS — Automated Driving System
    This is not the same thing as every driver-assistance feature. As used by the rules, ADS refers to systems capable of performing full driving tasks on a sustained basis. That is different from ordinary driver-assist systems, where the driver remains responsible. L2 vs L3 and above, in other words.
I think the VCS side is the more relevant issue as it pertains to the mme. FordPass connectivity, OTA capability, cellular communication, Wi-Fi/Bluetooth-related systems, and related gateway/connectivity hardware are the areas that seem most likely to matter.

Here is my "simplified" (😏) Mach-E read:

Issue
Applies to Mach-E?​
Timing​
Practical concern
Connected vehicle rule scope
Yes​
Now / future model years​
Mach-E is a connected vehicle. Scope does not mean noncompliance.
VCS software
Potentially yes​
MY2027+​
Main near-term issue. This covers software tied to vehicle connectivity systems.
ADS software
Maybe, depending on the system capabilities​
MY2027+​
More relevant to true automated-driving systems than ordinary driver-assist features. L3 and above
Ordinary vehicle modules
Not automatically​
MY2027+​
A module made in China, by itself, does not appear to make the whole vehicle prohibited.
Low-level firmware
Usually not the main MY2027 issue​
MY2027+​
The rule generally treats firmware differently from covered software. Context still matters.
VCS hardware
Potentially yes​
MY2030+​
This may be the harder long-term issue because hardware supply chains take time to change.
Existing owner vehicles
No practical concern​
2021–2026 fleet​
The rule is aimed at future import/sale/commercial transactions, not removing modules from cars already owned.
A few additional points:
  • The rules do not appear to be a blanket ban on every Chinese-origin part or module in a vehicle.
  • The near-term MY2027 issue is about covered software in connected-vehicle systems and automated-driving systems.
  • The MY2030 issue concerns VCS hardware, which could be a more difficult supply chain problem.
  • Current vehicles are not the main target of the rule.
  • Public information does not tell us Ford’s exact module-by-module supplier status for future Mach-E model years, so uncertainty remains.
  • It would not be surprising if Ford has already been reviewing or changing suppliers, software responsibilities, documentation, and certification processes for future model years.
My take: for the Mach-E, this looks more like a future compliance and sourcing issue than a simple yes/no problem. The more pertinent questions are likely telematics/connectivity stack, software provenance, supplier control, and ultimately VCS hardware sourcing.

Separately, this rule could be one of several reasons automakers may prefer cleaner, newer electrical and connectivity architectures later in the decade rather than carrying forward too much of an older design. That is not unique to the Mach-E, and I would not treat it as proof of any specific Ford product decision.

Sources worth checking directly, preferably just before going to bed. Unless you find regulatory language oddly fascinating.
  • U.S. Commerce / BIS Connected Vehicles rule summary
  • 15 CFR Part 791, Subpart D
  • Federal Register final rule on connected vehicles
 

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Sources worth checking directly, preferably just before going to bed. Unless you find regulatory language oddly fascinating.
IMO - more so than medical journals. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I was just out for my morning walk and I saw Carvana drive in the neighborhood with a Tesla performance model on the back and he stopped at my friend’s house and he’s getting rid of his Mustang GT ice version. He says yeah my uncle’s got a couple of them so I went with Tesla. He said this premium gas in the Mustang just ain’t getting it anymore. He said driving 60 miles a day, I said I got what I got. I just hope you’re happy with it. I’m sure you will be happy with Electric. It’s a different world driving it when you’re used to a loud car. I said I actually find it more exciting driving the electric car than I did a gas powered car.
I just went through this dilemma myself. My round trip to work is around 50 miles, but when school is in and I have to drop off the kid at school it's over 60. I had a '24 F-150 Tremor with the V8, and was only averaging around 14.8 MPG. When gas was 5 bucks a gallon, full tank was around 180 bucks, and one trip to work was 20 dollars. Over 1k miles on the '26 MME, and the only way I'll ever get another ICE is if I end up finding the right classic car to restore (would have to be a '56 or '57 Chevy Bel Aire, '41-'53 Chevy truck, '41-'42 Ford, '82-89 S-10).

I do have to say, since the gas prices went up, I'm seeing more MMEs on the road myself lately! Of course, this could just be because I have one now... Anyhow, I've had mine for about 1.5 months now, my wife around a month, and a neighbor about a block from us up a side street just bought one about a week ago LOL
 

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I just went through this dilemma myself. My round trip to work is around 50 miles, but when school is in and I have to drop off the kid at school it's over 60. I had a '24 F-150 Tremor with the V8, and was only averaging around 14.8 MPG. When gas was 5 bucks a gallon, full tank was around 180 bucks, and one trip to work was 20 dollars. Over 1k miles on the '26 MME, and the only way I'll ever get another ICE is if I end up finding the right classic car to restore (would have to be a '56 or '57 Chevy Bel Aire, '41-'53 Chevy truck, '41-'42 Ford, '82-89 S-10).

I do have to say, since the gas prices went up, I'm seeing more MMEs on the road myself lately! Of course, this could just be because I have one now... Anyhow, I've had mine for about 1.5 months now, my wife around a month, and a neighbor about a block from us up a side street just bought one about a week ago LOL
I hear ya well we got the 40 restored now working on the 65 nova color change frame off complete redo got the nova from California still had the window sticker was a six cylinder super sport two owners and Petina but no rush like damage

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I hear ya well we got the 40 restored now working on the 65 nova color change frame off complete redo got the nova from California still had the window sticker was a six cylinder super sport two owners and Petina but no rush like damage
Hopefully with the money the wife and I are saving with the EVs, we'll be able to get to the place we can get into this. Of course, she'd be arguing against my choices and telling me we'd have to get a 60s era Mustang :crackup: (her grandfather used to have a business restoring them back when he was still around). Those look amazing, though! I absolutely love the color of the 40! That always has been my favorite color on vehicles!
 

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I just went through this dilemma myself. My round trip to work is around 50 miles, but when school is in and I have to drop off the kid at school it's over 60. I had a '24 F-150 Tremor with the V8, and was only averaging around 14.8 MPG. When gas was 5 bucks a gallon, full tank was around 180 bucks, and one trip to work was 20 dollars. Over 1k miles on the '26 MME, and the only way I'll ever get another ICE is if I end up finding the right classic car to restore (would have to be a '56 or '57 Chevy Bel Aire, '41-'53 Chevy truck, '41-'42 Ford, '82-89 S-10).

I do have to say, since the gas prices went up, I'm seeing more MMEs on the road myself lately! Of course, this could just be because I have one now... Anyhow, I've had mine for about 1.5 months now, my wife around a month, and a neighbor about a block from us up a side street just bought one about a week ago LOL
I think I can safely say that the amount of money I’m saving by having the electric vehicle pays for the difference in the insurance amount that was on my other car and my Internet service so I mean that’s a plus lol
 

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I just went through this dilemma myself. My round trip to work is around 50 miles, but when school is in and I have to drop off the kid at school it's over 60. I had a '24 F-150 Tremor with the V8, and was only averaging around 14.8 MPG. When gas was 5 bucks a gallon, full tank was around 180 bucks, and one trip to work was 20 dollars. Over 1k miles on the '26 MME, and the only way I'll ever get another ICE is if I end up finding the right classic car to restore (would have to be a '56 or '57 Chevy Bel Aire, '41-'53 Chevy truck, '41-'42 Ford, '82-89 S-10).

I do have to say, since the gas prices went up, I'm seeing more MMEs on the road myself lately! Of course, this could just be because I have one now... Anyhow, I've had mine for about 1.5 months now, my wife around a month, and a neighbor about a block from us up a side street just bought one about a week ago LOL
You've only had the wife for a month? Congratulations! :ROFLMAO:
 

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They made performance Focus and Escort, didn't mean they were on par with a Mustang.
Whatever the future holds for the Mach-E, Ford should keep the cachet it has already created.
I owned an Escort GT years ago. It was pretty quick and decent handling, but the turbo was crap, it lacked cooling and the bearings would disintegrate, which resulted in oil in the cylinders and a whole lot of smoke. I paid quite a bit to have it rebuilt, then it did the same thing again...
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