Estimated delivery date pushed back to 5 months later for my built mach e

[Todd]

Damn sounds like these dumbasses should pay their employees more. Literally Econ 101.

Anyways my car was built a few days ago and I really doubt Ford is handling a chip shortage by changing the status to built and then delaying them several months during shipping so I doubt that's the cause.

Restaurants are businesses and need to make a profit to survive. They can't just keep paying more without making more.

I'm guessing you don't run your own business?

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[stroszek]

Damn sounds like they should make more or stop failing as business owners then.

Extremely funny to expect actual people to do hard work for little money but demand that every business gets to thrive.

 

[mburtsvt]

How can it be a chip shortage when your car is already Built? Something is not making sense here, I will keep an eye out here for any updates. I sure hope this has something to do with bugs within their updates that just rolled out and not any widespread delays. A 5 month delay on a car already built seems wild to me, and also worries me that we will not see our MachE this year.

You understand you can build a car with a missing "chip" Just look at all fo the f150's in vacant lots in KC.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

If it's a chip shortage, like has been speculated here, wouldn't this have affected more of us here?

Yes.

 

[Todd]

Damn sounds like they should make more or stop failing as business owners then.

Extremely funny to expect actual people to do hard work for little money but demand that every business gets to thrive.

Yup, very clear you don't own your own business.

Cheers!

 

[stroszek]

Hmm sounds like someone's mad that he can't make it work.

 

[EELinneman]

They stated they are using 65nm technology on many automotive chips. This is a 6 generation old technology that has limited supply. Many chips are custom further limiting supply. Intel used to have almost all the engine controller business at Ford. They parted ways because Ford wanted custom everything and didn’t have the volume to justify it. Short term this is a hard problem to solve.

Bruceski88, are they using the 65nm technology because of the need to withstand the vibration, extreme temperature and other environmental stresses? I have no experience in automotive, but in aerospace they often use older technologies because they are more robust and can be radiation hardened and almost all the bugs have been exposed and addressed. The craptops we have at work are so damn fragile that I cannot imagine this generation (or vendor) being successful in automotive.

 

[Todd]

Hmm sounds like someone's mad that he can't make it work.

Why would I be mad? I'm not trying to make anything work. What are you talking about?

I was just pointing out my own experience and verifying what another poster said.

 

[vinny2487]

My car (CA Route 1 in Star White) went into production on 5/14 and according to my dealer was built on 5/17. However, the Ford website still says "in production" with no update since. It's been a couple weeks with no updates. Scheduled delivery is 6/15-6/21. Gonna fire off some emails to my dealer. Anyone else having this problem?

 

[EVS]

Why would I be mad? I'm not trying to make anything work. What are you talking about?

I was just pointing out my own experience and verifying what another poster said.

Don't bother replying to posts that look too much like trolling. Trying to find any logic in those comments is a fool's errand.

 

[bruceski88]

Bruceski88, are they using the 65nm technology because of the need to withstand the vibration, extreme temperature and other environmental stresses? I have no experience in automotive, but in aerospace they often use older technologies because they are more robust and can be radiation hardened and almost all the bugs have been exposed and addressed. The craptops we have at work are so damn fragile that I cannot imagine this generation (or vendor) being successful in automotive.

They are using 65nm because of corporate inertia. Both aerospace and telecommunications use advanced technologies. Probably the most severe environments for most semiconductors are telecom and aerospace as the devices may be used 24x7 in all kinds of environments. Outside of the wild temperature swings, an automotive application is like being on vacation for a chip, 400hrs a year of work vs more than 8000 for the stuff carrying your internet. Radiation hardening is only useful for Satellites. Most military applications start with advanced technology, but by the time they are in production it is several generations old.

 

[DK922]

Ugly..

 

[EVS]

They are using 65nm because of corporate inertia. Both aerospace and telecommunications use advanced technologies. Probably the most severe environments for most semiconductors are telecom and aerospace as the devices may be used 24x7 in all kinds of environments. Outside of the wild temperature swings, an automotive application is like being on vacation for a chip, 400hrs a year of work vs more than 8000 for the stuff carrying your internet. Radiation hardening is only useful for Satellites. Most military applications start with advanced technology, but by the time they are in production it is several generations old.

CAUTION: OFF TOPIC!
I am having doubts that it is just inertia. The larger geometries have some benefits: lower cost, more durable, lower static power consumption, much cheaper fabs, more drive strength, less manufacturing defects (lower cost), much less electromigration and signal cross talk issues, etc. Autos have to survive years in harsh external weather conditions and shocks on the road. The design constraints are quite different. Here is a good summary I could find quickly. If there is no need to compute fast, older geometries are actually better.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/07/15/automotive-grade/

• Rock-solid reliability — Everyday reliability is important. But your vehicle also requires a consistent level of reliability. It has to work on scorching summer days and frigid winter nights. When driving, lives are on the line.
• Useful lifetime expectancy — The useful life of your phone is two to four years. Your car can last more than a decade.
• Running Hot and Cold - Let’s focus on one of the factors that underpin our ability to meet both these targets: the ability to withstand a wide range of temperatures. When a consumer electronic device, such as a smartphone, is subjected to temperatures outside its limited range of tolerance, it may deliver error messages or just shut off.

That 10 year is too low. Cars routinely last 20-30 years. Average age of cars is > 11 years in the USA.

 

[Barno]

Hi all. Premium AWR ER Space White ordered 10/6/20. Production date 5/25/21. Email from FMC received 6/3/21:​

Your 2021 Mustang Mach-E Premium has been built – which means it won’t be long before you’re able to experience the thrill of driving!

Our current estimate for delivery to Hempstead Ford (Long Island,NY) is between July 17, 2021 and July 23, 2021. Hope is not a strategy, so I am planning on not getting the 5 month delay email next. .

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