Ford Blue Cruise issues ?

[JoeDimwit]

You realize this makes YOU the dangerous driver in this situation right?

Left lane is for passing….. be safe out there!

I only ever get into the left lane if I am Passing, and at that point, I make the pass as quickly as it is safe to do. When I am using cruise control, I take the second lane from the right (unless that is actually the left lane, which it isn’t on any of the expressways I drive on to/from work). This leaves the right lane as the merge lane for people entering or exiting the expressway. I developed this habit driving my Escape, as staying in the right lane led to constantly having to decelerate for merging traffic, then re accelerate back to posted speeds that led to a statistically significant difference in efficiency. Also, legally, I am within the law to be in any available lane as long as I am driving at or above the posted minimum speed limit.

if someone driving at the posted speed limit, not in the passing lane, poses a danger to traffic, then either the police need to enforce the speed limit better (they do), or the legal limit needs to be increased. Just because some people are robbing a bank doesn’t mean it is ok for everyone to rob that bank.

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[Mach1E]

I only ever get into the left lane if I am Passing, and at that point, I make the pass as quickly as it is safe to do. When I am using cruise control, I take the second lane from the right (unless that is actually the left lane, which it isn’t on any of the expressways I drive on to/from work). This leaves the right lane as the merge lane for people entering or exiting the expressway. I developed this habit driving my Escape, as staying in the right lane led to constantly having to decelerate for merging traffic, then re accelerate back to posted speeds that led to a statistically significant difference in efficiency. Also, legally, I am within the law to be in any available lane as long as I am driving at or above the posted minimum speed limit.

if someone driving at the posted speed limit, not in the passing lane, poses a danger to traffic, then either the police need to enforce the speed limit better (they do), or the legal limit needs to be increased. Just because some people are robbing a bank doesn’t mean it is ok for everyone to rob that bank.

You said you purposefully slow down below the limit and block traffic (48 mph).

It may be legal, but it’s creating a dangerous situation.

Some states even DO have laws against it:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/beat-ticket-book/chapter7-6.html

Impeding traffic laws are normally worded something like this:

"No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or compliance with the law."

https://blog.firsttimedriver.com/blog/slow-left-lane-driving-laws-and-dangers/

What you are describing above (cruise control, middle lane, speed limit) is not the same situation you described before. That’s totally fine.

 

[MachMachWhoThere]

My two cents, but with the caveat I haven’t read every post. ACC is great, and the speed limit adjustments have always worked flawlessly for me. BC is more party trick than useful tool, but if I regularly drove long distances on the highway, I might have a greater appreciation for it. Mine ping pongs too much to enjoy.

But the thought that ACC should recognize stopped traffic ahead and adjust for it? Remember what the car is looking for. It’s waiting for a car to get into your set distance, and then adjust itself to match its speed, up to your upper limit. It’s not watching out for danger on the horizon for you.

When I see a traffic jam coming up, I press the cancel/resume button in and let one pedal coast me down.

 

[JoeDimwit]

You said you purposefully slow down below the limit and block traffic (48 mph).

It may be legal, but it’s creating a dangerous situation.

Some states even DO have laws against it:
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/beat-ticket-book/chapter7-6.html

Impeding traffic laws are normally worded something like this:

"No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or compliance with the law."

https://blog.firsttimedriver.com/blog/slow-left-lane-driving-laws-and-dangers/

What you are describing above (cruise control, middle lane, speed limit) is not the same situation you described before. That’s totally fine.

I did say that I will do that in very specific situations. Do you remember what those situations were? If someone is tailgating me, they are creating a dangerous situation, not me. I am slowing down, in that situation, to give them more time to react without hitting me. I am actually making it safer. But good job trying to argue against a sound bite you tried to take out of context.

also, that bit about “compliance with the law”… if I am ANYWHERE between the posted minimum and maximum speed limits, I am complying with the law. I have zero legal obligation to break the law because you want to break the law.

finally, if they have 2 other lanes in which to go around me, yet choose to get up on my bumper, I am in no way impeding or blocking the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.

 

[Mach1E]

I did say that I will do that in very specific situations. Do you remember what those situations were? If someone is tailgating me, they are creating a dangerous situation, not me. I am slowing down, in that situation, to give them more time to react without hitting me. I am actually making it safer. But good job trying to argue against a sound bite you tried to take out of context.

also, that bit about “compliance with the law”… if I am ANYWHERE between the posted minimum and maximum speed limits, I am complying with the law. I have zero legal obligation to break the law because you want to break the law.

finally, if they have 2 other lanes in which to go around me, yet choose to get up on my bumper, I am in no way impeding or blocking the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.

Yes, they are being dangerous. And you purposefully slowing down to block them and piss them off even more makes the situation worse. And it’s possibly illegal or a cop sees you blocking traffic on purpose.

Would you “brake check” them too? (Also illegal).

Yes, they are in the wrong. But don’t add to the situation. Just maintain speed or get out of the way. But purposefully slowing down? Don’t do that.

Defensive driving means staying away from reckless people, not blocking them.

 

[JoeDimwit]

Yes, they are being dangerous. And you purposefully slowing down to block them and piss them off even more makes the situation worse. And it’s possibly illegal or a cop sees you blocking traffic on purpose.

Would you “brake check” them too? (Also illegal).

Yes, they are in the wrong. But don’t add to the situation. Just maintain speed or get out of the way. But purposefully slowing down? Don’t do that.

Defensive driving means staying away from reckless people, not blocking them.

I see you are still inventing positions for me which you can argue against. Go back and read what I said.

 

[Mach1E]

I see you are still inventing positions for me which you can argue against. Go back and read what I said.

Nothing to invent, I’m talking about direct quote.
You said:

“When idiots get up on my bumper to try to scare me into going faster, I slow down gradually to about 48, or until they use one of the two other lanes available to go around me. I’ve got no fucks left to give for people that want to drive that stupidly.”

I’ll say it again. Yes, they are being dangerous. And you purposefully slowing down to block them and piss them off even more makes the situation worse. And it’s possibly illegal or a cop sees you blocking traffic on purpose.

 

[Awmustang]

You set the +/- threshold for ICC. IIRC the max is +19 mph. It may be +15. I do not use ICC. When in doubt, RTFM.

Yeah, I know how to set it... my point was that I need it to be different thresholds for different situations. in 50 mph zones I want +14 but in 70 mph zones I want +8. RTFP

 

[Awmustang]

Just need to be aware of surroundings and "help" blue cruise if there is something weird going on

yeah, all depends on the situation I guess. The majority of my use for it would have 6 different speed limits in about 10 miles, so the convenience factor isn't there for me because I want a different "offset" for each of those speed limits. Perhaps on very long road trips where speed changes are rare it would be helpful.

 

[JoeDimwit]

Yes, they are being dangerous. And you purposefully slowing down to block them and piss them off even more makes the situation worse. And it’s possibly illegal or a cop sees you blocking traffic on purpose.

Would you “brake check” them too? (Also illegal).

Yes, they are in the wrong. But don’t add to the situation. Just maintain speed or get out of the way. But purposefully slowing down? Don’t do that.

Defensive driving means staying away from reckless people, not blocking them.

Clearly you don’t know how words work. How am I “blocking them” if there are other lanes they could use?

 

[Cm12]

Clearly you don’t know how words work. How am I “blocking them” if there are other lanes they could use?

Exactly. If you’re in the right lane, and going at a reasonable speed given the circumstances, then you’re not doing anything wrong. If you were in the left lane, different story, but you’re not in the left lane. I’ve never understood why some people tailgate when there are other open lanes. The only answer I can come up with is that they’re really, really bad drivers.

 

[Mach1E]

Clearly you don’t know how words work. How am I “blocking them” if there are other lanes they could use?

If you’re driving under the speed limit and 70 cars are passing you as you said, you are impeding the flow of traffic…. Purposefully. It isn’t safe and you’re doing it with some sort of revenge road rage against the other a-hole drivers.

It doesn’t make an already dangerous situation safer, it makes it worse.

 

[Kamuelaflyer]

Clearly you don’t know how words work. How am I “blocking them” if there are other lanes they could use?

If you’re driving under the speed limit and 70 cars are passing you as you said, you are impeding the flow of traffic…. Purposefully. It isn’t safe and you’re doing it with some sort of revenge road rage against the other a-hole drivers.

It doesn’t make an already dangerous situation safer, it makes it worse.

I think this has been beaten to death guys.

 

[JoeDimwit]

If you’re driving under the speed limit and 70 cars are passing you as you said, you are impeding the flow of traffic…. Purposefully. It isn’t safe and you’re doing it with some sort of revenge road rage against the other a-hole drivers.

It doesn’t make an already dangerous situation safer, it makes it worse.

I never said I was driving below the posted speed limit while being passed by those people. You keep inventing more false positions to argue against.you need to go back and actually read what I actually wrote.

 

[catgo1co]

My bluecruise turned on by itself today as I was backing out of a parking space. Since I have zero experience with it, I was press all the buttons an it would not turn off. Finally after 15 minutes on the road it turned of. Anyone else have that happen or does anyone have suggestions on what I should do if it happens again? Thanks in advance for the help.

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