Can Ford catch up to Tesla?

[All Hat No Cattle]

Maybe a better question is this. Since Tesla prefers that Ford provides their current Service Vehicles, do they have any of Ford's EV's on order?

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[Tngo23]

I get it that you don't care, but car manufacturers are in business to sell cars, and I'd assume they want to sell a LOT of them.

I'm sure Ford is thrilled with your loyalty, but I also would assume they want to bring in new buyers, and figure out how to manufacture cars in large numbers.

Ford should not be worried about any manufacturers and just focus on what they have brought out to market. All companies include Tesla (the main competitor) but as well as Huyndai, Kia, Fisker, Chevy, Jaguar, Pulsar/Volvo, BMW, Nissan, etc.

Tesla has over 10 yrs of technology and battery know-how over the rest of the world thus why they are churning out so many Units per month/Year.......

If Ford is/was worried, they would fold and not Go Head to Head with Tesla, etc....

We are in good hands with Ford and their thinking moving forward.......FORD E

If you are afraid to fail, you have not Tried!

"FORD build TOUGH"

 

[Mirak]

You probably want to read some threads on here. Ford won't approach Tesla's volume for a long time. And who cares? I don't give a rat's behind what Tesla or Elon Musk do, wouldn't buy a Tesla ever.

Yup, who cares. Except that I might buy a Tesla someday if they ever produce a good looking model in my price range. The MY is so dumpy. And the number of them on the roads makes my MME look so much better in comparison. My car is like the one hot chick at the ugly sorority.

Musk is amazing, though. None of us would driving Mach Es if it wasn’t for Tesla. The Tesla fanbase is a cult, but I don’t think it’s fair to blame that on Elon.

 

[ChuckA]

All Ford’s EV’s and production has taken place during the era of pandemic shutdowns and chip shortages. Usually manufacturing capacity is built based on needs, but what is the correct order time? Certainly not 37 weeks. Who knows what the capacity ceiling is? We know the demand is there.

I think Ford will eventually push EV volumes in the Tesla range because they are offering commercial fleet vehicles along with sedan, suv & truck models being offered by Tesla.

At least Ford can learn from Tesla’s mistakes.

 

[ChuckA]

The profit margins on the lightning is too good to pass up. Considering their limited battery and microchip resources, Ford will be scaling up the F-150 lightning far sooner than they will be scaling up the MME. I'm thrilled that we probably can enjoy some MME exclusivity for a little while longer.

Ford has scaled up the MSRP which should help the profits.

 

[Socalsp3]

Tesla fanbois attack any source that makes them look bad, so I could have picked just about anything and still get blasted. The fact of the matter is Tesla has inferior quality. Supply chain means nothing when you are putting out crap and letting the customers absorb the detritus.

I don't like their EVs but i respect how they run their company. people buy their overpriced car without them having to spend anything on advertising. They must be doing something right. The OP is about catching up to tesla production.

 

[Tkm7501]

Wow 300k cars and they still don’t have CarPlay or AA, hard pass

Literally CarPlay is a dealbreaker for me

 

[RedStallion]

The profit margins on the lightning is too good to pass up. Considering their limited battery and microchip resources, Ford will be scaling up the F-150 lightning far sooner than they will be scaling up the MME. I'm thrilled that we probably can enjoy some MME exclusivity for a little while longer.

"The most extreme anti-environmentalists will never be converted, he says. That’s fine for Ford in the short run. More than fine, even. Having everyone switch quickly would be bad for business. The company’s century-old drivetrain has much fatter margins than high-cost ion power, and it generates most of Ford’s profit. That’s the great irony of Farley’s big bet on electric: He still needs hundreds of thousands of people to buy a conventional F-Series truck each year to finance the company’s electric future. “We have people in rural America, we have people who are doing jobs in the energy sector on the north slope of Alaska,” Farley says. “For so many of them, it still won’t make sense for many years.” The company’s target is for electric versions to account for 30% to 40% of annual F-150 sales by the end of the decade."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...f-150-lightning-electric-truck-takes-on-tesla

 

[All Hat No Cattle]

And Ford will have to work harder at catch-up, if it wants to keep up with Tesla in the filing of lawsuits by the SEC and Tesla shareholders.

In today's news.

Damages from the shareholders’ class-action lawsuit could amount to billions of dollars that would be paid by Musk and Tesla to those who are members of the class.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/16/elo...ts-ruled-false-new-court-filing-suggests.html

And this has nothing to do with the Twitter debacle, LOL.

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/12/1092...rting-twitter-stake-late-shareholder-suit-cla

Twitter investors sue Elon Musk for failing to promptly disclose the size of his stake

What a visionary!!

 

[Logal727]

Literally CarPlay is a dealbreaker for me

Yeah it sounds silly, but if I’m paying 60k for a car, I don’t want to be constantly reminded that it lacks that simple feature that makes it easy to access my phone ecosystem.

 

[Electric Goat]

I have both an MME and Tesla Model 3. They are both great cars but different in many ways.

No, the Tesla doesn't have Apple Car Play or Android Auto. But its proprietary onboard electronics and systems work well. And the Tesla app is far superior to FordPass...

You have to hand it to Elon Musk: He may be a weird guy but most visionaries are. Think Howard Hughes. Musk set out to revolutionize the auto manufacturing industry, and he succeeded. He proved that EVs are viable, and now all the other companies are following his lead. We can thank Elon for the fact that Ford is manufacturing the MME today.

Determined to do business differently, Tesla did away with dealers (and ADM), showrooms, and many other fixtures and traditions of other auto manufacturers. But Tesla's real brilliance was its early investments in the Supercharger network, which made long-distance travel feasible. As others have pointed out, there are advantages to building things like chargers in-house.

No doubt eventually Ford, GM, and the other auto manufacturers will surpass Tesla's production of EVs. I doubt that will surprise Musk; in fact, he'll probably be delighted. After all, he started a movement that is currently sweeping the country and the world!

Elon has stated many times that his goal is for other manufacturers to ramp up EV production so that Tesla can pivot to something else. He says that Tesla is not a car company they're an energy and technology company. He says that he'll have succeeded once other companies can carry the EV flag without Tesla.

... and he's doing a damn good job at it. All he has to do now is to announce a car and other manufacturers start losing their shit. He doesn't even have to build them. Telsa was first to announce an EV truck, an EV semi and and EV super car yet they won't be first to sell one.

Genius.

I don't ever want to own a Tesla but I absolutely love the company. They are masters at getting other companies to shoot for the stars.

 

[ShelJW]

Yeah it sounds silly, but if I’m paying 60k for a car, I don’t want to be constantly reminded that it lacks that simple feature that makes it easy to access my phone ecosystem.

Yeah. It does sound silly.

The car connects to your phone and allows you to answer or make phone calls, it'll read your text messages to you, if you receive a text while driving, it has it's own mapping program that's as good, and in some ways better then the IPhone map, includes Spotify and Tidal, plus FM radio and other music sources, but it's not Apple, so....

It also connects to your calendar, so when you get in your car, if you have an appointment, with location entered, your nav is automatically giving you directions to your upcoming appointment.

But I get it. Some people are attached to Apple, and can't manage without it.

(I'm not an Apple lover, so take my comments with a grain of salt)

 

[Logal727]

Yeah. It does sound silly.

The car connects to your phone and allows you to answer or make phone calls, it'll read your text messages to you, if you receive a text while driving, it has it's own mapping program that's as good, and in some ways better then the IPhone map, includes Spotify and Tidal, plus FM radio and other music sources, but it's not Apple, so....

It also connects to your calendar, so when you get in your car, if you have an appointment, with location entered, your nav is automatically giving you directions to your upcoming appointment.

But I get it. Some people are attached to Apple, and can't manage without it.

(I'm not an Apple lover, so take my comments with a grain of salt)

Thanks for confirming that people have their own tastes. I know how it works, thank you, it was between a MY or an MME and I much prefer using CarPlay, sorry if I offended you.

 

[moparguy]

Ford operates like the government model, Tesla operates like a private business with a team of the smartest people leading that business.

 

[All Hat No Cattle]

Ford operates like the government model, Tesla operates like a private business with a team of the smartest people leading that business.

Smartest people? From April 29. The problem seems endemic.

The Tesla Model 3 EV scored the best of the brand, with 59 points, but the Model S, Y and X scored 20, 18 and 5, in that order. It retains its position on the list as the second-least reliable brand.

https://autos.yahoo.com/least-reliable-car-companies-america-181100726.html

This comes from the same source that rated the first Tesla's at 100. What changed?

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