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[jonkMACHE]

It went from 340ish in the summer to 160-180 in the winter 10-30 degrees. That’s one hell of a drop. I don’t know any other evs that drop that much. Current weather now I’m getting about 240ish. With a extended battery.

Well I do have a '22 so it's got a bigger battery and is a little lighter... I actually live close to your area (tristate). Maybe I'd get 190 in the absolute worst conditions driving it in a horribly inefficient manner, but never 160. Typical during winter was more like 200-210.

Also I'm wondering if 37k miles in a year (nothing wrong with it, but that is a lot), might have juiced the battery a little.

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[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

Interesting, I have my con list but its intersection with yours is empty. I think you just got a defective car.

Curious what your con list is. Care to state some?

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

Well I do have a '22 so it's got a bigger battery and is a little lighter... I actually live close to your area (tristate). Maybe I'd get 190 in the absolute worst conditions driving it in a horribly inefficient manner, but never 160. Typical during winter was more like 200-210.

Also I'm wondering if 37k miles in a year (nothing wrong with it, but that is a lot), might have juiced the battery a little.

I’m pretty sure they fixed or updated a lot of stuff. I have to dig through my pics but I should be able to find the pics of the range I was getting

 

[mkhuffman]

It went from 340ish in the summer to 160-180 in the winter 10-30 degrees. That’s one hell of a drop. I don’t know any other evs that drop that much. Current weather now I’m getting about 240ish. With a extended battery.

The worst range I got in single digit temperatures driving 78 mph on the highway was 180 miles. And I have a GT. Now with warm weather I am getting 220-240 at the same speeds. Either something is wrong with your car, or your driving habits have changed over that time.

180 in very cold weather is not unusual but 340 in any weather is very unusual. That is way, way above the EPA range and the EPA range is not easy to do if you drive on the highway at all. To get 340 you must be driving 40 mph with a lot of flat terrain, and no rain.

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

The worst range I got in single digit temperatures driving 78 mph on the highway was 180 miles. And I have a GT. Now with warm weather I am getting 220-240 at the same speeds. Either something is wrong with your car, or your driving habits have changed over that time.

180 in very cold weather is not unusual but 340 in any weather is very unusual. That is way, way above the EPA range and the EPA range is not easy to do if you drive on the highway at all. To get 340 you must be driving 40 mph with a lot of flat terrain, and no rain.

I was gunning it every chance I got. 113mph every time I got a chance. Avg speed was like 80

 

[mkhuffman]

I was gunning it every chance I got. 113mph every time I got a chance. Avg speed was like 80

That's what it is made for! But 340 miles of range is impossible if you are driving like that...

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

That's what it is made for! But 340 miles of range is impossible if you are driving like that...

that was in sept 2021. In June July I was getting 340+. I don’t have a pic of it, only a bunch of times when the screen kept turning off.

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

The worst range I got in single digit temperatures driving 78 mph on the highway was 180 miles. And I have a GT. Now with warm weather I am getting 220-240 at the same speeds. Either something is wrong with your car, or your driving habits have changed over that time.

180 in very cold weather is not unusual but 340 in any weather is very unusual. That is way, way above the EPA range and the EPA range is not easy to do if you drive on the highway at all. To get 340 you must be driving 40 mph with a lot of flat terrain, and no rain.

That was when my modules died. I was getting under 180 miles then

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

That's what it is made for! But 340 miles of range is impossible if you are driving like that...

That’s this week.

 

[mkhuffman]

That was when my modules died. I was getting under 180 miles then

Do you park your car outside, unplugged? That maybe contributing to poorer range also. My car is parked inside in a fairly warm garage, which helped mitigate the impact of cold weather.

Sitting outside uplugged means the car needs to use the battery to heat up the battery and the cabin. When in my garage, the cabin was already warm enough for me, and it just needed to be maintained. And much less energy was needed to heat up the battery.

 

[mkhuffman]

That’s this week.

That looks normal for lots of higher speed highway driving.

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

Do you park your car outside, unplugged? That maybe contributing to poorer range also. My car is parked inside in a fairly warm garage, which helped mitigate the impact of cold weather.

Sitting outside uplugged means the car needs to use the battery to heat up the battery and the cabin. When in my garage, the cabin was already warm enough for me, and it just needed to be maintained. And much less energy was needed to heat up the battery.

I leave it outside but was always plugged in as I always needed a 100% for the day.

 

[Thunderbirdsoundsbetter]

That looks normal for lots of higher speed highway driving.

But a year ago I was getting 340+. A big drop if anything. Maybe because I drove a lot the battery deteriorated. But even back to I had more than 12k miles on it already so I don’t know

 

[RickMachE]

I sold it to vroom. I got 49.5k for it which I thought was fair given the mileage.

IMO, which is not worth much, $49.5K for a Premium ER AWD is low. While I have lower mileage, it's not a huge hit. I expect to complete selling mine before month end, and expect to get over $60K for it.

 

[mkhuffman]

But a year ago I was getting 340+. A big drop if anything. Maybe because I drove a lot the battery deteriorated. But even back to I had more than 12k miles on it already so I don’t know

Maybe you were joking about the speeds you are driving, but 340+ miles of range is very, very hard to achieve consistently. The EPA range for your car is 270 miles, right? Why do you think you can do better than that? Are you driving like grandma, and even slower than the EPA test cycle? Not likely. Some people do drive like that, but most people don't. Most people drive harder than the EPA cycle. For most people, even getting 270 miles of range in the summer is going to be hard. So why do you think you were getting 340+?

Here is a real world test in your car: https://www.greencarreports.com/new...ge-test-at-70-mph-true-to-epa-highway-results

They got 219 miles of range on the highway, driving like a normal person. Actually, driving slower than most people I see on the highway. So why do you think you were getting 340+? This is baffling me.

Please read the article and then explain why you think you can do 100+ miles of range more than what they were getting.

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